Open 904: DE Runs a Marathon Setup in the Open Queue [Completed]

[Ranger]

{usesPython}
{Dannflor}
{hellbooks}
{JupiterXV, fireisredsir, tris}
{Black}
{Political Clout}

I loosely think this still holds.

I'm suspicious of Political Clout.
I lean scum on Black.

All of {Jupiter, fire, tris} look overall town to me, yet also have moments where they look like they may be scum. One or two bad posts each then a sea of better ones. I think one of them is the third scum; I don't know which.

My hellbooks townread is stale, yet still feels accurate.

Dannflor I get occasional concerns of "this feels wrong", yet when I remove the bias of my perspective I believe him from his.

usesPython feels town and the only reason I have to doubt them is my past failure.

[Ranger]

if i decide i don't wanna go back to ranger, what are my alternatives. clearly fireisredsir is not an option even if i wanted to go there right now. usesPython and Political Clout i guess?

why is fire not an option?

Jupiter's going up with 1808, we're willing to flashwagon tris/PC with the deadline being what it is

I'm voting Political Clout, you can join me there.
I'll also vote Black, although she could be town.
I was going to say "if need be, I'd begrudgingly compromise on any of {Jupiter, fireisredsir, tris}", yet when I went to type it, I got told "no, that's wrong, it's only fire/tris".

So I suppose Jupiter is the towniest of the three.

I wouldn't be happy voting either fire or tris but if need be I will.

{usesPython}
{Dannflor}
{hellbooks}
{JupiterXV}
{fireisredsir, tris}
{Black}
{Political Clout}

[Ranger]

if i decide i don't wanna go back to ranger, what are my alternatives. clearly fireisredsir is not an option even if i wanted to go there right now. usesPython and Political Clout i guess?

You can join me on Political Clout.
I'll back you on fireisredsir if need be; I'd vastly prefer PC, or if not, Black.

[usesPython]

VOTE: PC

[tris]

if i decide i don't wanna go back to ranger, what are my alternatives. clearly fireisredsir is not an option even if i wanted to go there right now. usesPython and Political Clout i guess?

why is fire not an option?

is it?

[fireisredsir]

yeah i don't want to lim ranger

[fireisredsir]

i know i got shot down about the lack of a scum plan thing but i still don't see it

i felt like the initial catch up seemed like it could easily be coming from ranger scum guiding her reads into places where they allow her to push alternatives to herself

but since then its seemed like she's been evaluating and having more fluid reads and they've landed in places that seem... not very useful if she's scum?

[fireisredsir]

i thought PC's initial catchups felt towny but i guess there's been a sort of lack of interest in continued engagement with solving and pushing for his reads today

which is like maybe unfair since the only reason his posting today feels less towny is that he set the bar pretty high initially. and maybe he's been more busy today idk

my immediate reaction was that i didn't want to vote there either but im starting to feel like im running low on places where i think scum can be which worries me bc usually that means im clearing someone for something i shouldn't be

[fireisredsir]

i also still think it probably isnt both python and black scum just based on the way python has played around black

which limits the potential teams further

[fireisredsir]

i really wanna just go to sleep and not make decisions and see where things are in the morning but also i think especially if jupiter is town, which i think he probably is, and also not voting until morning then that basically gives scum free reign to do whatever they want bc there's only 4 town votes in play

so i think there's like a responsibility to vote here

i think thats definitely a flaw in my townplay is that im afraid to use my vote as actively as i should and that probably hurts us sometimes

[tris]

i know i got shot down about the lack of a scum plan thing but i still don't see it

i felt like the initial catch up seemed like it could easily be coming from ranger scum guiding her reads into places where they allow her to push alternatives to herself

but since then its seemed like she's been evaluating and having more fluid reads and they've landed in places that seem... not very useful if she's scum?

mm. that seems true

[fireisredsir]

had a moment of doubt

not about the game but about free reign

looked it up and apparently it's free rein. which is sort of what i picture in my head. taking the reins. but im pretty sure ive always spelled it like reign. which also neatly fits the meaning perfectly as well

[fireisredsir]

767 uses of free reign on the site. only 85 uses of free rein

it's the people's choice

[tris]

alright i've settled on not ranger

[tris]

VOTE: Political Clout

[tris]

that's e-2

[fireisredsir]

is there a reason in particular you landed there

[Dannflor]

if i decide i don't wanna go back to ranger, what are my alternatives. clearly fireisredsir is not an option even if i wanted to go there right now. usesPython and Political Clout i guess?

why is fire not an option?

well

If fire is town I don't want her dead

If fire is scum then it's impossible to lim her without scum bussing with the current Python wagon, which scum have shown they wont do

Therefore a useful fire lim is impossible

[fireisredsir]

thanks for the reminder of all that

VOTE: python

[fireisredsir]

ill be up about 3h before deadline

[usesPython]

Black, Jupiter, do y'all wanna vote for PC?

[hellbooks]

i think there are plenty of reasons why 1795 isnt convincing

i think jup's post re the black post they like was something id maybe pop in and do as scum given limited time (like just focus on something very minor that catches my interest so its easier to get thoughts out about it)

i think tris has said some pretty towny things in the past few pages

im guessing ranger moved me down bc i defended PC

these are rly just one second thoughts i kind of got swamped with a work emergency and will have to wake up early too (god i have gotten so little sleep for so long) so ill also be here 2 or 3 hours before deadline

[hellbooks]

my thoughts before the Tragically Abridged Sleep Arc are that id vote python before PC, and anyone over python except for tris

[usesPython]

my thoughts before the Tragically Abridged Sleep Arc are that id vote python before PC, and anyone over python except for tris

What do you think about all of your top townreads being wagoned?

[DragonEater70]

Bloop