Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Naerys]

im an evil ass dude

i be doing evil ass shit

Pink = evil, it is known

[SmileyDude1]

My issue with gob is I can see this type of push coming from either alignment. If he's town then he's worried I'll beat him again and also I think there's a possibility he just exaggerates his confidence in this read out of spite just to get me faded. If he's scum then the "fear vote" is an easy reason to hide behind while he just endlessly pushes me and works backwards to justify it. If he's scum then I think one of NotAScum/T3 is also scum helping with the push

I don’t think Black believes the last 2 points at all. Since when would gob do a ‘fear vote?’ I think Black just wants a reason to hedge on gob

Are you even reading the game? gob said himself that it was a fear vote in 22

Nvm I misunderstood what fear vote actually meant

You’re probably town

???

Your whole ISO is pushing me and shading me and suddenly I'm probably town? How did you reach that conclusion? And what are your thoughts on other players?

You don't seem all that concerned about appearances.

You're doing stuff that is weird + would generally be called out as scummy or at least cause people to be paranoid, but you didn't do any of those things in your scumgame with me.

The problem I have with this, is that you coming to that conclusion after pushing Black for a lot of this phase comes off as fake to me. When exactly did you come to this conclusion (Seems like you came to it in your 449 but don't want to assume anything) and what caused you to change your mind at that point?

[SmileyDude1]

im an evil ass dude

i be doing evil ass shit

Pink = evil, it is known

Knew there was a reason why that color gave me the creeps

Spoiler:

Pink's a nice color btw, the above comment is satire

[Ausuka]

Eurasian sparrowhawk - Accipiter nisus

The Eurasian sparrowhawk is mostly caramel brown in colour, with brown and gray feathers. The colour of this species can be pretty variable, though. Their eyes are starkly bright yellow. This small bird is a surprisingly skilled predator, and eats other small birds such as sparrows, tits and finches. Females of this species are about 25% larger than the males. To impress the female, a male sparrowhawk will do a 'rollercoaster flight' in which it flies in complex patterns to demonstrate its agility and reflexes. Its habitat is woodland, and it builds nests in the canopy of the forest. While it prefers dense forests, it can live in almost any forest, and even cities or suburbs. As the name would suggest, it can be found in the continents of Europe and Asia, from the UK to Japan. According to the IUCN, the species is rated as 'LC' or Least Concern, owing to the lack of any evidence for declining population and the existence of about 1 million individuals of this species.

VOTECOUNT 1.7

T3 (4)

- SmileyDude1, Black, SirCakez, Hu Tao

Naerys (2)

- gob, shaddowez

NotAScum (2)

- Random Nurse, Aristeia

SirCakez (2)

- Save the Dragons, T3

No Elimination (1)

- Snow2697

Not Voting (2)

- NotAScum, Naerys

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2024-02-26 01:12:53).

[SmileyDude1]

HOLY FUCKING STRONG REBUTTAL

I think everyone ought to unvote T3 and hop on Black.

I'm sorta agreeing with gob and don't like the wagon comp, but I don't like the reaction either.

These siutations are really easy. You always assume the person who everyone is against is town.

There was a long period of time where Black was the main wagon and didn't have much resistance. Why didn't you feel the same way then?

[T3]

My issue with gob is I can see this type of push coming from either alignment. If he's town then he's worried I'll beat him again and also I think there's a possibility he just exaggerates his confidence in this read out of spite just to get me faded. If he's scum then the "fear vote" is an easy reason to hide behind while he just endlessly pushes me and works backwards to justify it. If he's scum then I think one of NotAScum/T3 is also scum helping with the push

I don’t think Black believes the last 2 points at all. Since when would gob do a ‘fear vote?’ I think Black just wants a reason to hedge on gob

Are you even reading the game? gob said himself that it was a fear vote in 22

Nvm I misunderstood what fear vote actually meant

You’re probably town

???

Your whole ISO is pushing me and shading me and suddenly I'm probably town? How did you reach that conclusion? And what are your thoughts on other players?

You don't seem all that concerned about appearances.

You're doing stuff that is weird + would generally be called out as scummy or at least cause people to be paranoid, but you didn't do any of those things in your scumgame with me.

The problem I have with this, is that you coming to that conclusion after pushing Black for a lot of this phase comes off as fake to me. When exactly did you come to this conclusion (Seems like you came to it in your 449 but don't want to assume anything) and what caused you to change your mind at that point?

Yes, I came to that conclusion around 449

I changed my mind at that point because I thought about it more, but it's not like there was a specific catalyst or ah-ha moment.

[SirCakez]

I like that Cakez asked me for an elaboration and then just ignored it completely

You're assuming things, I read it but didn't have a further comment but I still wanted the answer

[SirCakez]

We have two and a half days let's get a claim here

Be the change you wish to see in the world - Mahatma Gandhi

I'm already voting T3 everyone else needs to get onboard

[SirCakez]

why is it scummy? You can't just quote a wall of posts and call it scummy, that doesn't mean anything

It's scummy because you're pointing something somewhat obviously not scummy out as scummy, and then you're justifying it by saying that he's "hiding behind his no lim vote" and that he's "harder to read" because of it

But the connection between being "harder to read" and "being scummy" isn't clear

I feel like the connection is pretty obvious, town wants to make themselves readable because they are town and scum don't want to be readable because they are scum

Yeah but in practice I feel like the level of thought process you claimed STD would have with that No Lim vote just doesn’t happen

I feel like posts like this are approaching me in such bad faith. Like you are admitting you can see where I'm coming from but don't think it's accurate, but how does that make me scum? I feel like you decided you needed to scumread someone strongly and are just posturing around to make it work.

[SirCakez]

I guess I just think if you're town your reaction to T3 saying something you believe is nonsense shading you would be something like

"this is so scum die die?"

cakez this is the part where you explain why I'm wrong and what you actually meant

Like what am I even supposed to respond to this Ari? I didn't react the way you expected, okay. I don't feel like I need to make some justification for me being town for this because idk what I'd even argue

[gob]

i am a stone cold heart of ice baddass who gets tons of women

[gob]

i really think tgis site needs a “user theme” setting


like you can link a youtube song as your “personal theme” and when people click on your avatar ir hover over it, their theme plays.

That would be fricken sweet

[gob]

SirCakez

run this idea up to the MafiaScum head

[Black]

I won't be around much this weekend but I'll try to keep up

[Hu Tao]

Oh we only have 1 day left. Sorry I have been checked out this game

[Hu Tao]

I'm still fine with t3 but I'm okay switching if needed.

Snow who do you scumread the most?

[gob]

I'm about to take everything

[Random Nurse]

If it means preventing a no-lim I am open to hammering.

[Snow2697]

I'm still fine with t3 but I'm okay switching if needed.

Snow who do you scumread the most?

I've set out my thoughts in #590.
In brief, Cakez seems most scummy to me followed by T3, but 2 scums there can be overly optimistic. Also Black and Aristeia look neutral, but I think there is 1 scum between them.

[NotAScum]

As T3 and SirCakez voted each other, I'm guessing one of them is scum.

[Black]

As T3 and SirCakez voted each other, I'm guessing one of them is scum.

Why can't they both be town?

[NotAScum]

Why can't they both be town?

They could be, but they both look scummy so I'm guessing at least one of them ought to be.

[Aristeia]

why are the two of them scummy?

[SmileyDude1]

My issue with gob is I can see this type of push coming from either alignment. If he's town then he's worried I'll beat him again and also I think there's a possibility he just exaggerates his confidence in this read out of spite just to get me faded. If he's scum then the "fear vote" is an easy reason to hide behind while he just endlessly pushes me and works backwards to justify it. If he's scum then I think one of NotAScum/T3 is also scum helping with the push

I don’t think Black believes the last 2 points at all. Since when would gob do a ‘fear vote?’ I think Black just wants a reason to hedge on gob

Are you even reading the game? gob said himself that it was a fear vote in 22

Nvm I misunderstood what fear vote actually meant

You’re probably town

???

Your whole ISO is pushing me and shading me and suddenly I'm probably town? How did you reach that conclusion? And what are your thoughts on other players?

You don't seem all that concerned about appearances.

You're doing stuff that is weird + would generally be called out as scummy or at least cause people to be paranoid, but you didn't do any of those things in your scumgame with me.

The problem I have with this, is that you coming to that conclusion after pushing Black for a lot of this phase comes off as fake to me. When exactly did you come to this conclusion (Seems like you came to it in your 449 but don't want to assume anything) and what caused you to change your mind at that point?

Yes, I came to that conclusion around 449

I changed my mind at that point because I thought about it more, but it's not like there was a specific catalyst or ah-ha moment.

Can I see an example of you doing something similar as town, because right now I'm struggling to believe that the sentiments shared in your 189, 369, and 444 actually changed just by thinking about it more. It feels too sudden to me.

[Ausuka]

Prodding Save the Dragons