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[Luca Blight]

Sorry that i actually tried to solve the game lol

Why do you think that Hu Tao is town and I'm scum?

[Naerys]

I became active after people stopped posting ridiculous number of posts and it became easier to concetrate on this game for me

[Naerys]

Sorry that i actually tried to solve the game lol

Why do you think that Hu Tao is town and I'm scum?

I am on phone right now so i will just say that i didnt like your position on some wagons, Hu was pushing gob for some time so i dont think they are aligned

[Luca Blight]

Sorry that i actually tried to solve the game lol

Why do you think that Hu Tao is town and I'm scum?

I am on phone right now so i will just say that i didnt like your position on some wagons, Hu was pushing gob for some time so i dont think they are aligned

Scum pushing their partners is quite common. I'm certain that If I were scum this game I would have pushed Gob more rather than tunnelling on oats - because it gives you something to point to when it comes to melo. The fact is that oats was always my stronger scumread, which is why I kept on him. Hu Tao stayed on Gob while keeping her options open with regards to oats as vivax pointed out.

Especially in the climate of this game, with oats being one of the tl crew, it would definitely be a safer bet as scum to bus your partner (Gob, who was always on borrowed time anyway) than bank on eliminating oats who could be bailed out by the likes of OoO at any moment. The fact that so many vocal townies were pushing oats meant scum never had to do any of the heavy lifting there.

[DarthPunk]

I’m around tomorrow a lot while I am at work to address all this stuff. We have plenty of time and I plan on making use of it.

[DarthPunk]

Luca is basically confirmed mafia at this point when he started the day with saying I’m lock town or whatever and then as soon as he saw that I was going to push him posting walls and flipping his read.

He has had a lot of time to develop his read on me, which was town, and then he responds again to being called scum with calling the person pushing him as scum.

I realise this is going to shit up the thread again but I can’t let him just waffle his way out. Again.

Anyway talk more tomorrow.

[DarthPunk]

Luca basically has to discredit all wagon arguments because he looks so bad on all of them.

[Luca Blight]

Luca is basically confirmed mafia at this point when he started the day with saying I’m lock town or whatever and then as soon as he saw that I was going to push him posting walls and flipping his read.

He has had a lot of time to develop his read on me, which was town, and then he responds again to being called scum with calling the person pushing him as scum.

I realise this is going to shit up the thread again but I can’t let him just waffle his way out. Again.

Anyway talk more tomorrow.

That's not what happened - I never said you were lock town, I said that if you were scum then you've probably already won, which is still most likely true.

Having considered everything, I came to the conclusion that you and Naerys are the most likely team. I don't know why you think this would be good strategically to do this if I were scum and you town in this position - I certainly wouldn't try to alienate myself from the consensus townread player. I'm saying what I'm saying because it's how I genuinely feel, even if it's most likely a lost cause by this point.

If I''m scum then who is my partner?

[Luca Blight]

Luca basically has to discredit all wagon arguments because he looks so bad on all of them.

I rarely put much stock in wagons.

If I did, and I was scum, then I wouldn't make myself look bad on them, would I? Scum know who is flipping town and who isn't.

[Luca Blight]

F*ck it, let's go.

VOTE: Darth Punk

I realise this is an uphill battle against someone who everyone reads as town, but in that case then the game is lost anyway.

Nothing about Darth's reaction makes me think he could be town. As town he would see that I'm trying to solve the game, even if I suspect him, rather than say it makes me confirmed scum, because what is my motivation here as scum? As scum I don't go head to head with the consencus town read, nor against half of the tl crew like I did on D1 while (rightly) defending my townreads.

[DarthPunk]

I literally said I wanted more time and was busy, you trying to do something before I get a chance to lay o it arguments against me. Basically claiming scum here.

[Luca Blight]

You said I'm confirmed scum - what more is there to say?

Either you die or I die, that's all there is to it.

[DarthPunk]

It’s just really scummy to do it when you know I said I was busy. I guess you aren’t even trying to appear reasonable anymore so whatever.

I’ll be around tomorrow.

[Luca Blight]

Or is this another example of not believing what you say, like the time you said I spewed Dunn as town and then voted to eliminate him?

[Luca Blight]

It’s just really scummy to do it when you know I said I was busy. I guess you aren’t even trying to appear reasonable anymore so whatever.

I’ll be around tomorrow.

You're the one who said I was confirmed scum - I never said that about you. So it's you who is being reasonable. I've given reasoning for everything I've said regarding my suspicion of you.

[Luca Blight]

who isn't being reasonable*

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

I'll unvote to let Darth say his piece.

[Luca Blight]

I want to hear who you think my partner is and why you are not considering Naerys as scum.

[Naerys]

Naerys-

Luca,Vivax

Hu Tao-

Luca,Vivax

Luca-

Darth,Naerys

Vivax-

Naerys,Hu

Darth-

Hu,Luca

[Luca Blight]

Yeah, if I'm scum with vivax I really go head to head with Darth which I'm much more likely to lose in this game state, leaving Hu Tao and Naerys to vote Vivax off tomorrow

[Vivax]

Naerys-

Luca,Vivax

Hu Tao-

Luca,Vivax

Luca-

Darth,Naerys

Vivax-

Naerys,Hu

Darth-

Hu,Luca

Hu, DP actually

[Luca Blight]

If me and vivax are scum then the only way to win from here is to buddy Darth and get him to vote someone like Hu Tao, who he also scumreads.

[Naerys]

Naerys-

Luca,Vivax

Hu Tao-

Luca,Vivax

Luca-

Darth,Naerys

Vivax-

Darth,Hu

Darth-

Hu,Luca

Hu, DP actually

fixed

[Naerys]

If me and vivax are scum then the only way to win from here is to buddy Darth and get him to vote someone like Hu Tao, who he also scumreads.

And what do you think about Hu Tao?

[Luca Blight]

If me and vivax are scum then the only way to win from here is to buddy Darth and get him to vote someone like Hu Tao, who he also scumreads.

And what do you think about Hu Tao?

I think either you or Hu Tao are scum with Darth. Based on interactions I would say that you seem more likely at the moment unless Hu Tao and Darth have done some thorough distancing.