Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Naerys]

its interesting you didnt say anything about anything else that happened but this theory of mine you feel compelled to respond to

It kinda hit my nose, i dont know why.

[Klick]

Please stop trolling Naerys
This game can either be a very negative experience or not that, and that's up to players' personal choices

I’m getting sick and tired of her refusing to engage.

Even if Town that is NOT fucking OK.

It's a game
People do less sportsmanlike stuff in games all the time
It's 'okay' for her to do whatever
I'm more concerned with whether she's town or scum from it

[Dannflor]

I'm just gonna be honest. If I was scum, I wouldn't try to just hard eliminate someone like this day 1. Seems icky and not fair to them and doesnt allow them to play the game. But I know it's self meta so no one will believe me.

i guess i kinda believe this post which would make hu tao either town or svs with naerys

[Aristeia]

I know i am town and from my point of view it kinda feels like trying to topple a struggling wagon

um my theory is about your motivation to save hu tao who is on your team

so if people think its a good theory, the lim today would be hu tao not you

so its literally the opposite of what you're accusing me of doing.

[KayJayQueue]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

So then based off of this, you think they could both be scum but the better elimination for us today is Hu Tao?

[Naerys]

um my theory is about your motivation to save hu tao who is on your team

When was i trying to save Hu Tao, lol?

[Aristeia]

So then based off of this, you think they could both be scum but the better elimination for us today is Hu Tao?

yea thats the point im making

or I guess we could always just yeet naerys and if she is like a "weak scum role" like "XXX enabler" then we yeet Hu tao tommorrow?

[Political Clout]

can you tell me what post if any solidified your read for dave and klick? or just their overall postings?

What do you think is dave and klicks biggest contribution to the thread so far?

Klick’s most recent posts in the last page or so can also answer this question. Just feels very town to me. There’s always a possibility of putting on a show to convince us, but I feel the actions are sincere.

you think their biggest contribution is their most recent posting? that doesn't alarm you? or am I misunderstanding something?

[Klick]

Frankly I think the narrative of 'this is all a very intentional scum ploy from Naerys' is ridiculous and she's obviously not enjoying this or having much intentionality in how she feels about this and I have no clue why Hu Tao thinks that's at all plausible

[Random Nurse]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

Funny you mention that.

If I’m killed it harms Scum’s power. That’s all I’m willing to say right now.

[Aristeia]

um my theory is about your motivation to save hu tao who is on your team

When was i trying to save Hu Tao, lol?

when you saw her go to e-2 and IC threaten to hammer and then you immediately had a meltdown and voted yourself on page 16

[Aristeia]

the height of the HT wagon was on page 15, you dismantled it yourself out of nowhere by page 16.

I don't understand why you would tilt if you're getting close to limming the person you think is mafia

i dont understand why you refuse to vote for hu tao or push her

so I have to make a narrative that makes sense to me because I don't really get it if you're town and straight up playing against your win con this way

[KayJayQueue]

So then based off of this, you think they could both be scum but the better elimination for us today is Hu Tao?

yea thats the point im making

or I guess we could always just yeet naerys and if she is like a "weak scum role" like "XXX enabler" then we yeet Hu tao tommorrow?

This goes back to my original worry when the vote was close on naerys initially. If naerys came up town, Hu Tao would be pushed next. If she came up scum, there are still people that would push Hu (like you just confirmed). I don’t particularly like that potential timeline. This was the reason I originally unvoted Naerys.

[Naerys]

when you saw her go to e-2 and IC threaten to hammer and then you immediately had a meltdown and voted yourself on page 16

i dont even know how that happened tbh

[KayJayQueue]

can you tell me what post if any solidified your read for dave and klick? or just their overall postings?

What do you think is dave and klicks biggest contribution to the thread so far?

Klick’s most recent posts in the last page or so can also answer this question. Just feels very town to me. There’s always a possibility of putting on a show to convince us, but I feel the actions are sincere.

you think their biggest contribution is their most recent posting? that doesn't alarm you? or am I misunderstanding something?

Not biggest contribution necessary but I thought you asked for examples of why I thought they were town. This is a newer example if the previous ones I gave you didn’t help you understand where I was coming from.

[Dannflor]

are you willing to un-selfvote and play, naerys

[Klick]

the height of the HT wagon was on page 15, you dismantled it yourself out of nowhere by page 16.

I don't understand why you would tilt if you're getting close to limming the person you think is mafia

i dont understand why you refuse to vote for hu tao or push her

so I have to make a narrative that makes sense to me because I don't really get it if you're town and straight up playing against your win con this way

You've never seen town emotionally self-implode in ways that didn't seem rational to you?

[Naerys]

UNVOTE:
i need to sleep now tho

[Aristeia]

You've never seen town emotionally self-implode in ways that didn't seem rational to you?

I've seen town emotionally self implode under pressure when they're losing in the vote count or being pressured and feel like they're the leading candidate to be limmed. I don't see it when they're winning in the vote count and on the verge of yeeting their top scumread.

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

[Klick]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

[Aristeia]

UNVOTE:

I don't think the odds are like amazing that this is some S-S thing but it's the explanation that makes sense to me because it makes most of the pieces fit.

Hu Tao self voting and yelling that Naerys is mafia to distance

Naerys unvoting and sabotaging the Hu Tao wagon at its Apex

Hu Tao abandoning Naerys to vote PC as soon as a viable CW popped up while saying she still thought Naerys was a "good" vote also - then popping back on Naerys.

Naerys claiming she doesn't care about the game and then re-engaging into the thread when this subject comes up.[this would make sense with a scum mentality of "I'm done, my job was to die for Hu Tao today" to "oh no maybe they are onto us and panick"]


I think Dave said something earlier about how Hu Tao/Naerys interactions felt like scum theatre and its just been in the back of my head.

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

And you’re apparently not.

I wonder why that is.

[Aristeia]

I have a tendency to believe in overarching grand theory type things in mafia games and also have issues with basic probability btw so take what I say with a grain of salt.

[Random Nurse]

People must not be paying attention because my full role is not just IC.