Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[KayJayQueue]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

I guess I assumed if someone really felt done with the game and wanted out, they’d ask to be replaced? Staying around has to mean she actually does care about playing. I just don’t understand the way she’s been going about it. I’m extremely confused and all the theories are making my head spin because even these theories don’t explain everything she’s done.

[Psyche]

think klick is leaning way too hard on meta here. if there really are such night and day differences between naeyrs's town and scum play then taking advantage of that meta to justify lurking is child's play. if naerys had let the thread "get to her" then her performance of disengagement and disillusionment here would be more total

[Klick]

naeyrs's activity patterns suggest that she's at least skimmed all 52 pages of this game

I've stuck around and read games that I also felt like I wanted no part in before
I've also sat around in threads just to have arguments with people I was annoyed with to no real positive end
It gives off the same vibes

[Political Clout]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

I guess I assumed if someone really felt done with the game and wanted out, they’d ask to be replaced? Staying around has to mean she actually does care about playing. I just don’t understand the way she’s been going about it. I’m extremely confused and all the theories are making my head spin because even these theories don’t explain everything she’s done.

be careful close to breaking the rules.

[Hu Tao]

I know i am town and from my point of view it kinda feels like trying to topple a struggling wagon

um my theory is about your motivation to save hu tao who is on your team

so if people think its a good theory, the lim today would be hu tao not you

so its literally the opposite of what you're accusing me of doing.

This is 0 sense. You are back on the list of 6

[Klick]

think klick is leaning way too hard on meta here. if there really are such night and day differences between naeyrs's town and scum play then taking advantage of that meta to justify lurking is child's play. if naerys had let the thread "get to her" then her performance of disengagement and disillusionment here would be more total

I flatly and strongly disagree with this take

[Hu Tao]

Frankly I think the narrative of 'this is all a very intentional scum ploy from Naerys' is ridiculous and she's obviously not enjoying this or having much intentionality in how she feels about this and I have no clue why Hu Tao thinks that's at all plausible

She can be scum and not enjoying

[KayJayQueue]

it's not like it was a secret.

Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?

that's all it takes. like a bolt from the heavens really.

So with that, now that you feel Ari is leaning town, what do you think about her SvS theory about naerys and hu? I’d like to hear your opinion.

[Klick]

Frankly I think the narrative of 'this is all a very intentional scum ploy from Naerys' is ridiculous and she's obviously not enjoying this or having much intentionality in how she feels about this and I have no clue why Hu Tao thinks that's at all plausible

She can be scum and not enjoying

I think the reason she's not enjoying is linked to her being town

[Hu Tao]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

Funny you mention that.

If I’m killed it harms Scum’s power. That’s all I’m willing to say right now.

We all know you wouldn't say that if that was the case. Doctor or bodyguard be on Nurse. I don't want a fake claim later and they weren't on you

[KayJayQueue]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

I guess I assumed if someone really felt done with the game and wanted out, they’d ask to be replaced? Staying around has to mean she actually does care about playing. I just don’t understand the way she’s been going about it. I’m extremely confused and all the theories are making my head spin because even these theories don’t explain everything she’s done.

be careful close to breaking the rules.

Wait, please tell me, I didn’t realize anything I said was close to rule breaking and I feel like I’ve reread them many times. Which part is against the rules?

[Psyche]

think klick is leaning way too hard on meta here. if there really are such night and day differences between naeyrs's town and scum play then taking advantage of that meta to justify lurking is child's play. if naerys had let the thread "get to her" then her performance of disengagement and disillusionment here would be more total

I flatly and strongly disagree with this take

then i guess one of us gets bragging rights once the slot flips

[Hu Tao]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

[Hu Tao]

town is
Me
Rn
not a scum
titus
hu tao
naerys
dann - leaning town
aristea - leaning town

Im unsure of Dave

i'm leaning scum on
kjq
klick
gera
psyche

If you're scum gera is probably scum

[Psyche]

i completely agree naerys is sincerely not enjoying the game; this could explain why her play doesn't currently fit w her supposed scum meta. but when i'm not enjoying a game as scum, withdrawing while maintaining the bare minimum of activity is usually the least i can do for my teammates

[KayJayQueue]

Well after rereading the rules again, I want to be perfectly clear that I am not telling anyone that they should ask to be replaced. I was just stating an assumption I had about how people were playing and what it meant. I hope no one actually took it that way, as that was not my intention in the slightest.

[Hu Tao]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

She's butthurt that Hu Tao isn't dying and she's getting suspected. It's explained more by her feeling ignored and like she's right and everyone else is wrong, as opposed to people leaning more towards accurately finding her as scum.

Naerys doesn't dislike me or anything. She's just scum this game. Trust

[Hu Tao]

This is her way to survive

[Klick]

i completely agree naerys is sincerely not enjoying the game; this could explain why her play doesn't currently fit w her supposed scum meta. but when i'm not enjoying a game as scum, withdrawing while maintaining the bare minimum of activity is usually the least i can do for my teammates

I don't think Naerys' lack of enjoyment is explainable from a scum perspective

She's salty because she thinks Hu is getting away with murder and she's spiting the town for it by trying to implode

If she's scum she was responding to a standard amount of pressure that she would be prepared to face as scum

[Dannflor]

If she's scum she was responding to a standard amount of pressure that she would be prepared to face as scum

consider posts like 177 and 179

i think there could be an element of "caught for the wrong reasons" frustration if scum

[Psyche]

klick how do you generally distinguish between town lurking and scum lurking?

i'll give that it's not my strong suit; this naeyrs scumread is my best effort at it. is your approach to examine meta?

[Random Nurse]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

Funny you mention that.

If I’m killed it harms Scum’s power. That’s all I’m willing to say right now.

We all know you wouldn't say that if that was the case. Doctor or bodyguard be on Nurse. I don't want a fake claim later and they weren't on you

I’m also Macho so Scum needs to target me ASAP.

[Klick]

It doesn't feel like caught for the wrong reasons at all

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

As Town it’s both normal and expected for me to be paranoid of everyone in the game.

[KayJayQueue]

UNVOTE: Psyche