Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also, pagetop

[Oblivion]

Jake submitted the best draft number.

It has interesting thoughts about that number. It felt it was strange to submit a number that would be guaranteed to be unique but had no chance of being lowest, as if the intended effect was to land squarely in the middle. It wonders why anyone would want that?

I signed up to this game with the intention of submitting ω (the first transfinite ordinal number, omega) because I thought it would be funny. Alas, this proposal was denied. Instead, I submitted the first 15 digits of Tau, mainly because I didn't want to submit a meaningless large number

Sure, and if you're town it believes that is all that happened. It has to consider what you would do if you were scum and needed to work together with your team. It thinks that story works mostly to cover your number choice and deny a specific "reason" for picking from existing... but scum will have to work together with their picks, regardless.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake submitted the best draft number.

It has interesting thoughts about that number. It felt it was strange to submit a number that would be guaranteed to be unique but had no chance of being lowest, as if the intended effect was to land squarely in the middle. It wonders why anyone would want that?

I signed up to this game with the intention of submitting ω (the first transfinite ordinal number, omega) because I thought it would be funny. Alas, this proposal was denied. Instead, I submitted the first 15 digits of Tau, mainly because I didn't want to submit a meaningless large number

Sure, and if you're town it believes that is all that happened. It has to consider what you would do if you were scum and needed to work together with your team. It thinks that story works mostly to cover your number choice and deny a specific "reason" for picking from existing... but scum will have to work together with their picks, regardless.

We could wax philosophical over what a wolf!Jake would do, but I think it's safe to say that any hypothesis at this early stage of the game would be both tenuous and likely wrong. I would even suggest that there may be a hint of WIFOM at the heart of it; would the scum coordinate to all choose different numbers to increase their chances of getting PRs, or would they double up on certain numbers to make the first assumption misleading?

I'm more interested in vibing in the thread until some drama happens.

[PenguinPower]

So much spam, from former listmods even
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff...

wut?

I’ve always played like this. What does me being former staff have to do with anything?

[June]

also i think that like every single iteration that i've played of this setup or almost all of them there's been at least one person who goes "noooo the draft means nothing ignore it" but then we used the draft to solve the game or made it easier at some point so there's that

I didn't like this post cause it's written from the perspective of previous games where you were town instead of this game where you are town[?]

i dont think its worth picking at this more so just take an Ok Thumbs Up Emoji

[Jake The Wolfie]

So much spam, from former listmods even :(
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff... :roll:

wut?

I’ve always played like this. What does me being former staff have to do with anything?

It means that you have to play like a pro, of course!

C'mon Penguin, where's the D1 out-of-rvs final solve?

[PenguinPower]

May can be town for saying “anecdata.”

[PenguinPower]

So much spam, from former listmods even
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff...

wut?

I’ve always played like this. What does me being former staff have to do with anything?

It means that you have to play like a pro, of course!

C'mon Penguin, where's the D1 out-of-rvs final solve?

It’s in my mason PT.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Can I be in the masonry?

[PenguinPower]

Can I be in the masonry?

It would require warmpup's blessing, but since ducky backed out...maybe.

[Firebringer]

ur the mason leader, penguinpower

[yessiree]

VOTE: Dunn

fun is over

[PenguinPower]

ur the mason leader, penguinpower

Fine...provisional membership granted.

[Oblivion]

Can it say that while it intellectually understands that all this masonry talk is kind of town block building from the foundation of what appears to be prior friendships for the sake of building something, emotionally this just feels like an in-group deciding who is and isn't town based on said friendships and gaining voting block control to dictate how things go, and it really doesn't know how to remotely interact with it. It feels massively uncomfortable, and it makes it sort of not want to interact with anyone who participates.

In short, it sucks that the depth of about four different players content in this game is wholy this thing, and that this thing is more or less just an exclusion method. It hates it, quite a bit.

[PenguinPower]

I would recommend not taking it so seriously if that's your takeaway.

[yessiree]

Can it say that while it intellectually understands that all this masonry talk is kind of town block building from the foundation of what appears to be prior friendships for the sake of building something, emotionally this just feels like an in-group deciding who is and isn't town based on said friendships and gaining voting block control to dictate how things go, and it really doesn't know how to remotely interact with it. It feels massively uncomfortable, and it makes it sort of not want to interact with anyone who participates.

In short, it sucks that the depth of about four different players content in this game is wholy this thing, and that this thing is more or less just an exclusion method. It hates it, quite a bit.

let's build our own masonry with blackjacks and hookers

[Firebringer]

we have better blackjack than yessiree

also hookers are banned as they ruin blackjack

[Oblivion]

So how is it meant to take it? If it takes it at face value, then it's an in-group building based upon how you connect with seemingly little other than past experiences, for the sake of town blocking.

If it's meant as a joke, then it's worse because it's accomplishing the same thing, except none of the content from said coalition is even usable because the argument will be "well don't take it too seriously" anytime someone tries to interrogate the behaviour on display. It's like Schrodinger's Cat, it's serious, unless it's not, and it's only not serious when you need to say it isn't?

It just feels frustrating because it makes it impossible to generate models on any of you because if the idea is "we're going to troll, but actually we're also building this too, but we're only joking" what is it meant to think?

Do you have any reads beyond town on the people you're doing this with?

[Firebringer]

penguin point is that its not very serious, if you want to read into it for alignment go for it. But if you are trying to make it out like we are excluding people from the cool club, thats not whats happening.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Can it say that while it intellectually understands that all this masonry talk is kind of town block building from the foundation of what appears to be prior friendships for the sake of building something, emotionally this just feels like an in-group deciding who is and isn't town based on said friendships and gaining voting block control to dictate how things go, and it really doesn't know how to remotely interact with it. It feels massively uncomfortable, and it makes it sort of not want to interact with anyone who participates.

In short, it sucks that the depth of about four different players content in this game is wholy this thing, and that this thing is more or less just an exclusion method. It hates it, quite a bit.

They have seen this and a reply will be administered to it shortly.

[Oblivion]

like when it examines Firebringer's posts, there is possibly one in the entire thing that it can say doesn't relate to this topic and doesn't come across as just trying to be funny, and it's the one time they say "if i was trying to solve this game, this is who I think would be scum" and names June.

But that in itself is an issue because it means am I meant to take the rest of their posting as like, non-content? So then what am I meant to engage with?

[Firebringer]

I haven't even begun hard buddying penguin yet.
This masonhood was but one first step in a long game of gaining his trust and favor.

Eventually I will bring him over to the scum side. Its just a matter of time.

[Oblivion]

penguin point is that its not very serious, if you want to read into it for alignment go for it. But if you are trying to make it out like we are excluding people from the cool club, thats not whats happening.

It isn't trying to make anything out as anything, it's telling you it's the effect of what you are doing upon it. It doesn't know how remotely to engage with any of you. To even begin in reading any of you.

[Firebringer]

woops sorry meant that post for scum pt

[Firebringer]

like when it examines Firebringer's posts, there is possibly one in the entire thing that it can say doesn't relate to this topic and doesn't come across as just trying to be funny, and it's the one time they say "if i was trying to solve this game, this is who I think would be scum" and names June.

But that in itself is an issue because it means am I meant to take the rest of their posting as like, non-content? So then what am I meant to engage with?

i haven't really been trying to sort anyone yet tbh.

June i think is scummy but I think all the cat talk is just what irks me. I am not a fan of cats myself.