Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Black]

Do you think I'm scum with gob?

it's not out of the question. Voting gob doesn't exclude such possibility

I'm not saying it should, I just wanted to hear your thoughts. You seem to think both gob and I are scum but it doesn't feel like you think we're partnered

[NotAScum]

Gob is probably a goon. It's not hard to guess cakez got killed by vig and gob is used to lure vig. Black is his scummate and now is just distancing

[Black]

Gob is probably a goon. It's not hard to guess cakez got killed by vig and gob is used to lure vig. Black is his scummate and now is just distancing

What do you not understand about scum!gob knowing the Vig killed Cakez?

[Black]

He doesn't have to guess in this scenario. He knows his team killed Ari

[Snow2697]

NotAScum asked a question: "How did gob figure out the vig killed cakez".
You answered this question: "If gob is scum then he knows the scum team killed Ari".
So, your answer assumes that Gob is scum, since otherwise he could not have known who was N1 vig victim.
I disagree with you. There is no reason IMO why scums would kill T3 and why a vig would kill Ari. Therefore an no-vig town Gob could have figured out who killed whom.

[Black]

I have a feeling that one of these people trying to pair me with gob is actually a gob partner posturing to push me once he flips scum

[Black]

NotAScum asked a question: "How did gob figure out the vig killed cakez".
You answered this question: "If gob is scum then he knows the scum team killed Ari".
So, your answer assumes that Gob is scum, since otherwise he could not have known who was N1 vig victim.
I disagree with you. There is no reason IMO why scums would kill T3 and why a vig would kill Ari. Therefore an no-vig town Gob could have figured out who killed whom.

If gob is town then he would have had to guess, but I don't think he's town

[gob]

Gob spent day 1 hard pushing Black and then somehow vigs Cakez? I dont see much logic there

this is a pretty disingenuous view lf my day 1 play

[NotAScum]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

[Black]

Gob spent day 1 hard pushing Black and then somehow vigs Cakez? I dont see much logic there

this is a pretty disingenuous view lf my day 1 play

No it's not. 90% of your content D1 was pushing me

[Black]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

[gob]

Gob spent day 1 hard pushing Black and then somehow vigs Cakez? I dont see much logic there

this is a pretty disingenuous view lf my day 1 play

No it's not. 90% of your content D1 was pushing me

No it really wasnt. Maybe 90% of my opening but definintiely not all day

[gob]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

??? im not pushing you to claim here lol. Im trying to lim you

[Black]

Regardless, if you were actually a Vig here you would have shot me. 1000% no question. You spewed all that crap about me being too good as scum and being afraid of me and saying I absolutely have to die because I'm a threat. There is no world where town!you shoots Cakez over me

Gob is scum here guys. His actions don't match his words or thoughts at all. That's because they're fake thoughts

[Black]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

??? im not pushing you to claim here lol. Im trying to lim you

What do you think getting me to E-1 would do? It would force me to claim. Trying to fade me and trying to make me claim is one in the same

[Snow2697]

NotAScum asked a question: "How did gob figure out the vig killed cakez".
You answered this question: "If gob is scum then he knows the scum team killed Ari".
So, your answer assumes that Gob is scum, since otherwise he could not have known who was N1 vig victim.
I disagree with you. There is no reason IMO why scums would kill T3 and why a vig would kill Ari. Therefore an no-vig town Gob could have figured out who killed whom.

If gob is town then he would have had to guess, but I don't think he's town

I see, but the way I have read you is that this Gob's correct guess proves that he is scum. But he could have guessed correctly as non-vig town. This is not rocket science. So, his guess does not prove a lot, it is just your position on Gob from other sources that makes you think he is scum.

[Snow2697]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

With this I agree, this is a real possibility.

[Snow2697]

Regardless, if you were actually a Vig here you would have shot me. 1000% no question. You spewed all that crap about me being too good as scum and being afraid of me and saying I absolutely have to die because I'm a threat. There is no world where town!you shoots Cakez over me

Gob is scum here guys. His actions don't match his words or thoughts at all. That's because they're fake thoughts

I agree with you that you were on D1 train too, so it would make sense for vig!gob to kill you.
Why do you not consider that he is covering a real vig?

[NotAScum]

Only mafia can be too sure about alignments and definitely doesn't need to solve the game. What is interesting that gob and black are supremely confident about the alignments of each other and want to lynch the other rather than solving the game. While the rest of us still are trying to work out the real/fake vig. With that said, gob is a surer deal but his flip would implicate black

VOTE: gob

[Snow2697]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

??? im not pushing you to claim here lol. Im trying to lim you

What do you think getting me to E-1 would do? It would force me to claim. Trying to fade me and trying to make me claim is one in the same

At what point on D1 were you at E-1 stage? I think at most you've got 4 votes (Gob, Cakez, T3, NAS).

[Black]

Regardless, if you were actually a Vig here you would have shot me. 1000% no question. You spewed all that crap about me being too good as scum and being afraid of me and saying I absolutely have to die because I'm a threat. There is no world where town!you shoots Cakez over me

Gob is scum here guys. His actions don't match his words or thoughts at all. That's because they're fake thoughts

I agree with you that you were on D1 train too, so it would make sense for vig!gob to kill you.
Why do you not consider that he is covering a real vig?

It's possible, I just don't think it's likely

[Black]

Because some townrole could've 1-2 shot modifier. What is also suspicious is rather than voting snow, gob is voting black. Feels like distancing. Why would a real vig won't vote a fake vig? There's something else going on here

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that scum!gob wants to push town!me because Snow is a gated Vig that can't shoot tonight. He's not as big of a threat. The scum team still needs to figure out who the other town PRs are so it makes perfect sense for scum!gob to try and push me up to a claim here

??? im not pushing you to claim here lol. Im trying to lim you

What do you think getting me to E-1 would do? It would force me to claim. Trying to fade me and trying to make me claim is one in the same

At what point on D1 were you at E-1 stage? I think at most you've got 4 votes (Gob, Cakez, T3, NAS).

I'm referring to now. D2. If gob is scum then he's trying to push me to a claim

[Random Nurse]

Gut pinging on Gob and Black.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Black

[Black]

Only mafia can be too sure about alignments and definitely doesn't need to solve the game. What is interesting that gob and black are supremely confident about the alignments of each other and want to lynch the other rather than solving the game. While the rest of us still are trying to work out the real/fake vig. With that said, gob is a surer deal but his flip would implicate black

VOTE: gob

We won't use the "L" word here