Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Black]

Also what was the benefit of gob claiming right now. Did he think his partner would get heat today or something?

If he's scum then he wanted to out the Vig. He started pushing me when he realized the Vig was one-shot

Which post made him realize the Vig was one-shot?

Snow claimed 1-shot

[Random Nurse]

Hm.

Gut's screaming at me that it's Black and she simply cannot abide.

That said, if you want to launch between Gob and Snow have at it. I'd be more inclined to launch Gob currently, pending further scrutiny.

Remember when your gut kept screaming at me I was scum and I was town. Try to think in a world black is town for a bit

Yeah, well, you're a special bundle.

[NotAScum]

Why is Hu scummy for voting for gob?

she didn't explain gob vote reasoning in detail, feels like just jumping on the train. also the vote no 4/5 should be scrutinised more. After 3 votes, the wagon can be considered stable and safe to jump on

[Naerys]

okay first off, who i push openly and who i actuakly sr are different. You should know that.

You don’t know how i play, simply

thats basically admitting to having a hidden agenda, bcz town really shouldnt be doing this

[Naerys]

I mean yeah it doesn't feel very logical to want to fade me instead of the guy you think is fake claiming Vig

…


Did I say that?

I said my gut pinged on both Gob and you. That’s it.

Over-extend much?

Why do you scumread gob?

I didn’t say that.

I just feel two Vigs can’t exist and between Gob and Snow my gut pinged on Gob.

Can’t exactly explain intuition.

And voting Black solves this HOW?

[Naerys]

Gut's yelling me it's Gob and Black together doing theater.

I'll have to consult with my gut over this while dreaming.

my gut reaction was the same. something about gob and blacks back and forth feels manufactured. I can't pinpoint where though. I think gob is a goon but we'll know that at the end of the day

Yeah, that. The exchanges felt... odd. Not natural.

Help me fade gob then

Why the rush?

Why do you think I can't just launch you first and then savage the other two?

To me it feels like you wish to make a mess of this game, tbh. There is clearly fake vig claim and we should focus on that.

[Black]

I agree RN's posting has been really questionable

I ask him why he scumreads gob, he says he doesn't

I ask him why he would rather fade me over gob, he says I'm jumping to conclusions

Like I don't get RN's motive here if he's town. It doesn't make sense to me

[Naerys]

sus people:
gob
NotAScum
RN
StD

Town:
Smiley
Snow

Hu,Black,shaddowez are null

[gob]

okay first off, who i push openly and who i actuakly sr are different. You should know that.

You don’t know how i play, simply

thats basically admitting to having a hidden agenda, bcz town really shouldnt be doing this

how so? i always have a hidden agenda . You cant be 100% honest in this game as either alignment

[gob]

sus people:
gob
NotAScum
RN
StD

Town:
Smiley
Snow

Hu,Black,shaddowez are null

lotta sus people and only four town. Seems fake to me

[Hu Tao]

Hm.

Gut's screaming at me that it's Black and she simply cannot abide.

That said, if you want to launch between Gob and Snow have at it. I'd be more inclined to launch Gob currently, pending further scrutiny.

Remember when your gut kept screaming at me I was scum and I was town. Try to think in a world black is town for a bit

Yeah, well, you're a special bundle.

[Hu Tao]

Why is Hu scummy for voting for gob?

she didn't explain gob vote reasoning in detail, feels like just jumping on the train. also the vote no 4/5 should be scrutinised more. After 3 votes, the wagon can be considered stable and safe to jump on

You mean when I said snow was town like 10 times day 1

[Hu Tao]

sus people:
gob
NotAScum
RN
StD

Town:
Smiley
Snow

Hu,Black,shaddowez are null

I agree with those 2 town. I'd add black to town too.

Naerys prob town this game since she's making sense with her reads

[Snow2697]

Gob + Black + Hu Tao?

Could be. Makes sense to me.

[Hu Tao]

Gob + Black + Hu Tao?

Could be. Makes sense to me.

I trusted you

[Hu Tao]

Why do you think I'm scum?

[Black]

I'm not sure why so many people are thinking I'm scum with gob

[Naerys]

I'm not sure why so many people are thinking I'm scum with gob

remember certain game where you succesfully distanced and won as a scum? the memory is still fresh

[Black]

I'm not sure why so many people are thinking I'm scum with gob

remember certain game where you succesfully distanced and won as a scum? the memory is still fresh

Yeah I get that. I understand why people think it's possible, but likely? Idk

[Snow2697]

Snow was lock town since day 1 imo. If he's scum I'll be shocked

I have read the exchange. A couple of thoughts.

Re the quote above. How can I be lock town since D1? Townish? Probably. But look, it's my first game here. No-one knows me, my meta (if any), how I play as scum or town, how I play when I have time and when I don't, when I understand the rules and process and when I don't, when I am engaged or not. And so on.
Now imagine that I am scum. Would anything I have done or written on D1 be inconsistent with my scummy self?

What puzzles me is that Gob warned me that Black was trying to pre-pocket me. Now I am called lock town. No warning from Gob. RN is right that Gob-Black conflict is a theatre?

I think this is my issue for now. If Gob is town, he attacks Black. And Black is adamant at limming him. Which compromises Black. If Gob is scum, their conflict looks artificial and this compromises Black as well. Even more IMO. For instance, I CC-ed in part because I felt some pressure from Black's posts and thought that I should not be believed had I delayed. So, if Gob is scum who wanted to frame a vig, then Black could have had a role in that process. So one way or the other Black can be scum.

I don't think that we are now at ELo stage. There is approach that at no-ELo stage you leave a pair of conflicting players (2 cops etc.) in the game, analyze the set-up and who are remaining scums and eliminate a 3rd player. I therefore think that an idea to lim Black or anyone else has some merit.

I have had a busy day and go to bed now. Will think it over tomorrow.

[Snow2697]

Gob + Black + Hu Tao?

Could be. Makes sense to me.

I trusted you

Yeah, but you could be scum who knows my status.
I don't know yours, so I have to consider all options.
But look, you can be town and I can be mistaken just as I was when suspecting T3-Cakez.

[Snow2697]

Gob + Black + Hu Tao?

Could be. Makes sense to me.

I trusted you

Yeah, but you could be scum who knows my status. I don't know yours, so I have to consider all options.
But look, you can be town and I can be mistaken just as I was when suspecting T3-Cakez.

[gob]

Oh i got it now snow

[Hu Tao]

Snow was lock town since day 1 imo. If he's scum I'll be shocked

I have read the exchange. A couple of thoughts.

Re the quote above. How can I be lock town since D1? Townish? Probably. But look, it's my first game here. No-one knows me, my meta (if any), how I play as scum or town, how I play when I have time and when I don't, when I understand the rules and process and when I don't, when I am engaged or not. And so on.
Now imagine that I am scum. Would anything I have done or written on D1 be inconsistent with my scummy self?

What puzzles me is that Gob warned me that Black was trying to pre-pocket me. Now I am called lock town. No warning from Gob. RN is right that Gob-Black conflict is a theatre?

I think this is my issue for now. If Gob is town, he attacks Black. And Black is adamant at limming him. Which compromises Black. If Gob is scum, their conflict looks artificial and this compromises Black as well. Even more IMO. For instance, I CC-ed in part because I felt some pressure from Black's posts and thought that I should not be believed had I delayed. So, if Gob is scum who wanted to frame a vig, then Black could have had a role in that process. So one way or the other Black can be scum.

I don't think that we are now at ELo stage. There is approach that at no-ELo stage you leave a pair of conflicting players (2 cops etc.) in the game, analyze the set-up and who are remaining scums and eliminate a 3rd player. I therefore think that an idea to lim Black or anyone else has some merit.

I have had a busy day and go to bed now. Will think it over tomorrow.

I'm good at reading new players. And you were obvious town.

[shaddowez]

Also what was the benefit of gob claiming right now. Did he think his partner would get heat today or something?

If he's scum then he wanted to out the Vig. He started pushing me when he realized the Vig was one-shot

Which post made him realize the Vig was one-shot?

Snow claimed 1-shot

Snow never claimed 1-shot