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HighPrincessErinys it/its, not theyMafia Scumit/its, not they
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its funny to me that rr just kinda lowkey claims lunar!scum at a few points but otherwise idk if this game really says anything about what rr's doing here today, multiball or not-
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HighPrincessErinys it/its, not theyMafia Scumit/its, not they
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maybe it needs to read more-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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My general approach to scum is to lie as little as possible and push things that I genuinely think would be scummy if I didn't know better.
In multiball, I actually DON'T know better, so when I'm making those arguments, I mean them, just as I do when I'm Town.
A better comparison would probably be HMS Mutiny, where I was Town, convinced I caught scum, pushed hard for it, got ignored, and Town lost. Except in that game I could actually understand why people weren't seeing what I saw, but y'know.-
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It is not misleading in this circumstanceIn post 874, Radical Rat wrote:
This is misleading because that's a multiball game.In post 871, Klick wrote:
My problem with clearing Rat off of this basis is that this game exists and is described by what you've just saidIn post 869, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Probably need to devote some real time to reading and analyzing but my surface-level comments would be that they seem... confrontational? They've had a few conversations with others with an argument directly counter to the other's argument. It feels kinda towny from skimming, and that along with them never voting for AD who we can at this point verify as Assistant kinda makes me think they're town?In post 868, Gimli wrote: HPE, what do you think of radical rat?specifically because it is a multiball game-
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Kira plays this game like they are scum in a multiball game-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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But Kira doesn't want to eliminate their Followers, nor do Followers want to eliminate each other, nor do Followers want to eliminate Kira.
In multiball, I want the other scumteam dead.-
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The specific similarity I'm seeing here is Rat going full aggro refusal to be convinced otherwise on their opinion. I can't remember the exact details of how they did that in Cosmos (and I'm about to go check it to see myself). But I remember Rat doing exactly that in Cosmos, me thinking it was really fishy at the time, and then it relating to them being scum when they flipped.
Let's go see the context-
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I'm not convinced any of these things actually detract from my pointIn post 880, Radical Rat wrote: But Kira doesn't want to eliminate their Followers, nor do Followers want to eliminate each other, nor do Followers want to eliminate Kira.
In multiball, I want the other scumteam dead.-
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I also don't know why you're arguing to correct me on this point when you're 100% convinced I'm scum-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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Because you're using it to convince other people that I'm scum. I need to point out why the comparison you're trying to make doesn't apply, so that people don't listen to it.-
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No, I'm using it to say you shouldn't be cleared for bad invalid reasons and you're getting super combative over it-
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I didn't ignore youIn post 877, Radical Rat wrote: My general approach to scum is to lie as little as possible and push things that I genuinely think would be scummy if I didn't know better.
In multiball, I actually DON'T know better, so when I'm making those arguments, I mean them, just as I do when I'm Town.
A better comparison would probably be HMS Mutiny, where I was Town, convinced I caught scum, pushed hard for it, got ignored, and Town lost. Except in that game I could actually understand why people weren't seeing what I saw, but y'know.I'll tie your legs
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Everything Rat posted on this day phase, where they were practically confirmed scum
The confidence with which they presented a worldview that was just flat-out implausible and tried to argue out alternatives is what makes me think they're capable of what HPE is seeing as 'confrontational' when they are scum.-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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I don't think just pointing out why the point you're making isn't relevant is being super combativeIn post 885, Klick wrote: No, I'm using it to say you shouldn't be cleared for bad invalid reasons and you're getting super combative over it-
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Also worth noting that Radical Rat spends the whole previous day phase before that hard-pushing for my slot's elimination (Dingle Dangle Scarecrow) with confidence, which is probably why this sticks in my head so strongly as evidence that RR can express that kind of confidence as scum-
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Do you think you aren't being super combative in regards to me here generally? Or are you just arguing for it in this specific circumstance for the semantic winIn post 888, Radical Rat wrote:
I don't think just pointing out why the point you're making isn't relevant is being super combativeIn post 885, Klick wrote: No, I'm using it to say you shouldn't be cleared for bad invalid reasons and you're getting super combative over it-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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Because I genuinely believed you were scum, just like I do now.In post 889, Klick wrote: Also worth noting that Radical Rat spends the whole previous day phase before that hard-pushing for my slot's elimination (Dingle Dangle Scarecrow) with confidence, which is probably why this sticks in my head so strongly as evidence that RR can express that kind of confidence as scum-
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Note for the peanut gallery that I was town in Cosmos Mafia-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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I think I'm being regularly combative to youIn post 890, Klick wrote:
Do you think you aren't being super combative in regards to me here generally? Or are you just arguing for it in this specific circumstance for the semantic winIn post 888, Radical Rat wrote:
I don't think just pointing out why the point you're making isn't relevant is being super combativeIn post 885, Klick wrote: No, I'm using it to say you shouldn't be cleared for bad invalid reasons and you're getting super combative over it-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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Also, this isn't really relevant to this game's arguments, but I take issue with my self-defense in Cosmos being called "implausible," I think it was very plausible.-
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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Why is that?In post 870, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Most interested in Freedom rn, as far as votes might go."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Are these three your Kira suspects? On 571 you gave a non-Kira list that had Gimli and Drew(aka Freedom) as a non-Kira and what changed for you to put Gimli and Freedom in the poe of being Kira?In post 839, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: My PoE is Gimli, Radical Rat and Freedom. I'm pretty sure Kira is among their number.
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Are you actually scumreading Rat? I think they're pretty likely to be town.In post 885, Klick wrote: No, I'm using it to say you shouldn't be cleared for bad invalid reasons and you're getting super combative over it"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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we could just flip freedomI'll tie your legs
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