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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:57 am

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In post 837, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 834, Black wrote:
In post 826, ketchup777 wrote: UNVOTE:

Because I have no idea what’s happened while I’ve been gone
I'm curious about the thought process behind this unvote
I noticed people voting people at the end when I logged on and didn’t want to accidentally be E-1ing Laplacian. I think it’s good so might hop back on in a min but yeah caution first
In post 842, ketchup777 wrote: If you actually are town I don’t want to force you into claiming
In post 843, ketchup777 wrote: Part of my vote on you is also a VCA social experiment
In post 845, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 809, Ranger wrote: {JacksonVirgo, ketchup777}
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{Laplacian}

P26
Ok now I’m liking the list more, although I still think Koba is time after getting high
It feels like there is a disconnect here. You like Ranger's list which I'm assuming means Lap is your #1 suspect too, but you were afraid of him being at e-1 because you don't want him to claim, and you don't want him to claim because he might be town? Am I understanding that correctly

Also I'm not sure why you're mentioning the social experiment here? It feels like you're trying to justify unvoting for Lap. What is the experiment and how big of a factor was it in your vote?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:59 am

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In post 813, usesPython wrote:
In post 797, Ranger wrote: {Political Clout}
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P20
In post 798, Ranger wrote: {Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{Titus}

P21
None of these people posted on page 21, what prompted the change?
I think this is either scum!Ranger+town!python being on the ball or scum!Ranger+scum!Python Ranger letting Python 'notice' something to look good
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:59 am

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In post 851, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 813, usesPython wrote:
In post 797, Ranger wrote: {Political Clout}
{Titus, Hu Tao}

P20
In post 798, Ranger wrote: {Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{Titus}

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None of these people posted on page 21, what prompted the change?
I think this is either scum!Ranger+town!python being on the ball or scum!Ranger+scum!Python Ranger letting Python 'notice' something to look good
or both town, sorry. i think it’s unlikely it’s scum!python+town!ranger
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:05 pm

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In post 850, Black wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 837, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 834, Black wrote:
In post 826, ketchup777 wrote: UNVOTE:

Because I have no idea what’s happened while I’ve been gone
I'm curious about the thought process behind this unvote
I noticed people voting people at the end when I logged on and didn’t want to accidentally be E-1ing Laplacian. I think it’s good so might hop back on in a min but yeah caution first
In post 842, ketchup777 wrote: If you actually are town I don’t want to force you into claiming
In post 843, ketchup777 wrote: Part of my vote on you is also a VCA social experiment
In post 845, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 809, Ranger wrote: {JacksonVirgo, ketchup777}
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{Doctor Drew}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}
{Laplacian}

P26
Ok now I’m liking the list more, although I still think Koba is time after getting high


It feels like there is a disconnect here. You like Ranger's list which I'm assuming means Lap is your #1 suspect too, but you were afraid of him being at e-1 because you don't want him to claim, and you don't want him to claim because he might be town? Am I understanding that correctly

Also I'm not sure why you're mentioning the social experiment here? It feels like you're trying to justify unvoting for Lap. What is the experiment and how big of a factor was it in your vote?
Nope, my top suspect is probably still Ranger. I never claimed that Lap was my top scumvote, but I can understand why someone would put him up there. Basically I’ll let people differ in reads unless it seems wayyy out.

I probably made it sound overly fancy, just like 'what happens? who jumps on?' instincts tell me that the people who jump fourth, fifth, sixth onto wagons are a bit sus (why do i keep jumping on at sus points frick)
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:05 pm

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In post 848, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 827, Laplacian wrote: VOTE: light_ganski

Every post is a regression to the mean. She goes to defend people as soon as anyone posts a scumread, pushing against them as if they don't want any scum to be found. No strong reads or votes. Even L_G voting for me isn't "Lap is scum," it's .
This feels like more of a panic vote at being at E-2 and having another wagon opportunity rather than a genuine belief Light is scum
Go reread light's ISO and tell me they're doing actual work. Twice the posts of me and nothing of substance
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:06 pm

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In post 838, Laplacian wrote: good taste in gifs tho
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:07 pm

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VOTE: Ketchup777

wait, i can’t look too innocent, i might get nightkilled ):
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:10 pm

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In post 67, light_ganski wrote:
In post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally kill
In post 32, JacksonVirgo wrote: No biggie, sure you can understand
it's okay i get it, playing to your win condition and all that <3
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:10 pm

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In post 838, Laplacian wrote: JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
Why would I be mad at a push collapsing? I just pivot
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:11 pm

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In post 838, Laplacian wrote: Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
Is that your entire reasoning?
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:13 pm

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In post 854, Laplacian wrote:
In post 848, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 827, Laplacian wrote: VOTE: light_ganski

Every post is a regression to the mean. She goes to defend people as soon as anyone posts a scumread, pushing against them as if they don't want any scum to be found. No strong reads or votes. Even L_G voting for me isn't "Lap is scum," it's .
This feels like more of a panic vote at being at E-2 and having another wagon opportunity rather than a genuine belief Light is scum
Go reread light's ISO and tell me they're doing actual work. Twice the posts of me and nothing of substance


could be a pre planned interaction between Light and Ranger, I suppose. Some of the other things she said have felt genuine though
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:14 pm

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In post 857, ketchup777 wrote: OMG WHAT IF THIS ISNT A LOVEHEART BUT IS ACTUALLY A LESS THAN 3; LIGHT IS HINTING THAT SHE KNOWS THERE ARE LESS THAN 3 MAFIA WHO KNOW EACH OTHERS IDENTITY
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:14 pm

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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:15 pm

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Oh fuck I love playing with you
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:17 pm

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In post 858, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
Why would I be mad at a push collapsing? I just pivot
Selfmeta, but fair enough point. I didn't like the your vibes & tone through the arguments, but the more I think of the scum angle there the weaker it gets. Keeping you in the neutral zone though
In post 859, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
Is that your entire reasoning?
Yes, it's content lurking. Shift a few people up and down each page to look like you're active while making sure people you're pushing end up at the bottom. Never have to say any reasons until someone pushes back. Throw in that appeal to authority at the start and you've got a recipe to trivially look town and coast.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm

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In post 857, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 67, light_ganski wrote:
In post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally kill
In post 32, JacksonVirgo wrote: No biggie, sure you can understand
it's okay i get it, playing to your win condition and all that <3
OMG WHAT IF THIS ISNT A LOVEHEART BUT IS ACTUALLY A LESS THAN 3; LIGHT IS HINTING THAT SHE KNOWS THERE ARE LESS THAN 3 MAFIA WHO KNOW EACH OTHERS IDENTITY
rofl, right when I start to get more sus of you I get derailed with that
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm

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traitor game confirmed
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:18 pm

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In post 857, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 67, light_ganski wrote:
In post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally kill
In post 32, JacksonVirgo wrote: No biggie, sure you can understand
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:19 pm

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In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time

towny:

usesPython: great catch in . I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

neutral:

HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
Why do you feel the need to specify your agreement with ketchup when the read has nothing to do with that.

How much of a gap is between ganski and ranger
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:20 pm

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In post 853, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 850, Black wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 837, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 834, Black wrote:
In post 826, ketchup777 wrote: UNVOTE:

Because I have no idea what’s happened while I’ve been gone
I'm curious about the thought process behind this unvote
I noticed people voting people at the end when I logged on and didn’t want to accidentally be E-1ing Laplacian. I think it’s good so might hop back on in a min but yeah caution first
In post 842, ketchup777 wrote: If you actually are town I don’t want to force you into claiming
In post 843, ketchup777 wrote: Part of my vote on you is also a VCA social experiment
In post 845, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 809, Ranger wrote: {JacksonVirgo, ketchup777}
{usesPython, Black}
{Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{Doctor Drew}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}
{Laplacian}

P26
Ok now I’m liking the list more, although I still think Koba is time after getting high


It feels like there is a disconnect here. You like Ranger's list which I'm assuming means Lap is your #1 suspect too, but you were afraid of him being at e-1 because you don't want him to claim, and you don't want him to claim because he might be town? Am I understanding that correctly

Also I'm not sure why you're mentioning the social experiment here? It feels like you're trying to justify unvoting for Lap. What is the experiment and how big of a factor was it in your vote?
Nope, my top suspect is probably still Ranger. I never claimed that Lap was my top scumvote, but I can understand why someone would put him up there. Basically I’ll let people differ in reads unless it seems wayyy out.

I probably made it sound overly fancy, just like 'what happens? who jumps on?' instincts tell me that the people who jump fourth, fifth, sixth onto wagons are a bit sus (why do i keep jumping on at sus points frick)
Why Ranger? And why would you rather go back to the Lap wagon instead of vote for her?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:21 pm

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In post 864, Laplacian wrote:
In post 858, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
Why would I be mad at a push collapsing? I just pivot
Selfmeta, but fair enough point. I didn't like the your vibes & tone through the arguments, but the more I think of the scum angle there the weaker it gets. Keeping you in the neutral zone though
What didn't you like about the tone? Why are you keeping me in the neutral zone when your reasons to scum-read me get weaker.
In post 864, Laplacian wrote:
In post 859, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
Is that your entire reasoning?
Yes, it's content lurking. Shift a few people up and down each page to look like you're active while making sure people you're pushing end up at the bottom. Never have to say any reasons until someone pushes back. Throw in that appeal to authority at the start and you've got a recipe to trivially look town and coast.
I'll give you my insight then, they've done this every single game I've played with them in.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:23 pm

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Was my thoughts on ketchup as I wrote it. Next time I'll just say wrongtown and leave it at that

L_G I'm feeling confident, strong scum read. Ranger is a scumlean, a solid orange rather than a red
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:24 pm

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In post 871, Laplacian wrote: Was my thoughts on ketchup as I wrote it. Next time I'll just say wrongtown and leave it at that

L_G I'm feeling confident, strong scum read. Ranger is a scumlean, a solid orange rather than a red
You can say it however you want, just trying to pick your brain.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:24 pm

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Where was I before the reasons to scum-read me got weaker?
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:26 pm

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In post 857, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 67, light_ganski wrote:
In post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally kill
In post 32, JacksonVirgo wrote: No biggie, sure you can understand
it's okay i get it, playing to your win condition and all that <3
OMG WHAT IF THIS ISNT A LOVEHEART BUT IS ACTUALLY A LESS THAN 3; LIGHT IS HINTING THAT SHE KNOWS THERE ARE LESS THAN 3 MAFIA WHO KNOW EACH OTHERS IDENTITY
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