In post 1749, Hu Tao wrote:Luckily for you, we are going to win this game. If you're also town. You're not on my to vote list today anywayIn post 1746, Aristeia wrote:if you're actually town we'll lose together so I'm fine with itIn post 1744, Hu Tao wrote: What if I were to tell you..
I'm town.
I know. It's hard to believe. But I am. What would you say
I just wouldn't believe you at your word because like its trivially easy to lie about
out of like elevenIn post 1753, Hu Tao wrote: That was literally one of your reads for scum reading me
Were you not also scumreading her???In post 1757, Aristeia wrote: after you went all in on Naerys and she flipped town im ngl i dont trust your reads even if you're town
my entire thought process on Naerys has been posted in this thread I don't know what she was doing I was confused. I didn't want to lim her I wanted to lim you because if she was mafia the only explanation for her play was to protect you.In post 1759, Hu Tao wrote:Were you not also scumreading her???In post 1757, Aristeia wrote: after you went all in on Naerys and she flipped town im ngl i dont trust your reads even if you're town
i wish town consistently did this but in practice it is quite common for town players who make mistakes to either discount the gravity of their mistake or lay the blame on someone elseIn post 1760, Aristeia wrote: the point isn't do town players make mistakes and misreads
its do town players take the time to reset and re-think things after their "lockscum super sure scumread" flips town
You called us S/S. Now you're whining about the clear forcing you to vote herIn post 1271, Aristeia wrote: UNVOTE:
I don't think the odds are like amazing that this is some S-S thing but it's the explanation that makes sense to me because it makes most of the pieces fit.
Hu Tao self voting and yelling that Naerys is mafia to distance
Naerys unvoting and sabotaging the Hu Tao wagon at its Apex
Hu Tao abandoning Naerys to vote PC as soon as a viable CW popped up while saying she still thought Naerys was a "good" vote also - then popping back on Naerys.
Naerys claiming she doesn't care about the game and then re-engaging into the thread when this subject comes up.[this would make sense with a scum mentality of "I'm done, my job was to die for Hu Tao today" to "oh no maybe they are onto us and panick"]
I think Dave said something earlier about how Hu Tao/Naerys interactions felt like scum theatre and its just been in the back of my head.
In post 1763, Hu Tao wrote: You called us S/S. Now you're whining about the clear forcing you to vote her
i literally said this was a long shot thingIn post 1273, Aristeia wrote: I have a tendency to believe in overarching grand theory type things in mafia games and also have issues with basic probability btw so take what I say with a grain of salt.
^ this is me explaining that the only world where Naerys is mafia is if Hu Tao is also mafia because her play makes no sense from a mafia trying to mislim a town hu taoIn post 1405, Aristeia wrote:In post 1403, KayJayQueue wrote: Do you only think Hu/Naerys are scum if they are both scum? Is there a world where only one is and if so, which? I feel like I understand your stance on them both being scum with Hu having the more powerful role, but I’m just wondering about other options including one or the other, or neither.
If Naerys is mafia I feel like her play around page 15/16 really only makes sense if she's trying to save Hu Tao because its so irrational to implode like she did right there.
If Naerys is town - she's behaving irrationally and Hu Tao's alignment is pretty much not related to how Naerys has played.
You've literally called me scum for 11 reasons now I might be town?In post 1767, Aristeia wrote: i don't know if you're town with really bad reading comprehension or mafia trying to cherrypick random shit out of context to misrepresent my thought process
the only way to improve is to hold yourself to an incredibly high standard and be extremely upset after every mislimIn post 1768, KayJayQueue wrote: I don’t think we should be beating ourselves up about naerys. Everyone should remember that was acting extremely odd as town. She got seemingly quite upset, self-voted, stopped responding, trolled, then came back and sort of began to play again right before getting eliminated. (too little too late, unfortunately) She should be shouldering some of the blame here and not the rest of us for reacting to those weird actions. Yes, we made a mistake but she certainly didn’t help the situation.