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[davesaz]

VOTE: PC

[Hu Tao]

Town

Hu Taown
Random Nurse
Political Clout

Leaning Town

Psyche
davesaz
Titus

Slight Town

KayJayQueue

Unsure

Aristeia
Dannflor
geraintm
NotAScum

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: PC

Naur

[Hu Tao]

Only very roughly sorted.

Random Nurse
davesaz

KayJayQueue -- seems more concerned about being right/doing right things than about looking good, which gives townish vibes to me
Psyche -- not a huge fan of the tunnel, but I don't see scum motivation in pressing it against this kind of blowback.
Klick -- primarily gut from agreement. fair disclosure, I'm susceptible to agreement bias and it's really vague memories

Political Clout -- vague memory of feeling up and down, placement is mostly about not being sure what I felt
Doctor Drew -- historically have trouble reading and not much that I remember
Aristeia -- seems very underwhelming but I'm susceptible to projecting a burden of proficiency so keeping a null read
geraintm -- similar to Drew, I don't think I have a good track record of being able to read
Dannflor -- similar to Aristeia, I'm used to there being more presence and haven't put in the work to adjust that expectation
NotAScum -- what's there is admittedly a bit sketchy but wary of jumping to conclusions on so few posts

Hu Tao -- really dislike the self vote along with delay in pushing what then appeared to be a strong scumread, and seeing some possible opportunism.

Naerys -- dislike the self vote even more, actively avoiding some questions. Despite that, most likely read to be wrong, very swingy meta

PC moved a lot from here. Why Dave?

[Hu Tao]

Gonna he honest, Kay has been giving me some scum pings today. But unsure.

can you uh be more specific

Maybe it's a bit more passive

[Psyche]

sorry,

i

should have been more specific
can you point out specific posts that are scummy and tell us why you feel that way

[Hu Tao]

I still think NAS is best Elim. I don't want to out a PR either. He's scummy and already claimed

[Dannflor]

I'll be around in the next hour

thanks for not ending the day

[Hu Tao]

sorry,

i

should have been more specific
can you point out specific posts that are scummy and tell us why you feel that way

It's not a specific post more like a mood. They seemed to be more in the conversation day 1. And seem to have taken a step back day 2. Something I think I could see scum doing especially after that day 1. But I don't think it's enough go say she's scum or anything

[Hu Tao]

I'm also surprised we don't have a vigilante. Or maybe there is a vigilante tonight. If so I would shoot gera tbh.

[KayJayQueue]

sorry,

i

should have been more specific
can you point out specific posts that are scummy and tell us why you feel that way

It's not a specific post more like a mood. They seemed to be more in the conversation day 1. And seem to have taken a step back day 2. Something I think I could see scum doing especially after that day 1. But I don't think it's enough go say she's scum or anything

Wait you feel I’ve taken a step back today? I feel literally insane right now, because I feel like I haven’t shut up lol this game is making everything feel backwards. I need to go drink a bottle of water and chill for 10 minutes (I say this but watch me respond to Dann the minute after he posts again lol)

[Hu Tao]

Town

Hu Taown
Random Nurse
Political Clout

Leaning Town

Psyche
davesaz
Titus

Slight Town

KayJayQueue

Unsure

Aristeia
Dannflor
geraintm
NotAScum

If I'm wrong with someone here, I think it's someone in leaning town tier. I'm most confident in Psyche in this tier. I think the Klick kill spews Psyche as town

[Hu Tao]

sorry,

i

should have been more specific
can you point out specific posts that are scummy and tell us why you feel that way

It's not a specific post more like a mood. They seemed to be more in the conversation day 1. And seem to have taken a step back day 2. Something I think I could see scum doing especially after that day 1. But I don't think it's enough go say she's scum or anything

Wait you feel I’ve taken a step back today? I feel literally insane right now, because I feel like I haven’t shut up lol this game is making everything feel backwards. I need to go drink a bottle of water and chill for 10 minutes (I say this but watch me respond to Dann the minute after he posts again lol)

Okay maybe you are town

[Psyche]

looks like town is collectively most ambivalent about dann and clout

[Psyche]

oh and hu tao i guess? will have to tabulate. i have a large todo list at this point

[davesaz]

PC moved a lot from here. Why Dave?

You can probably figure out if you think a bit.

[Titus]

Town

Hu Taown
Random Nurse
Political Clout

Leaning Town

Psyche
davesaz
Titus

Slight Town

KayJayQueue

Unsure

Aristeia
Dannflor
geraintm
NotAScum

If I'm wrong with someone here, I think it's someone in leaning town tier. I'm most confident in Psyche in this tier. I think the Klick kill spews Psyche as town

How? I haven't ruled out Klick as a vig shot. I think if Klick is not a vig shot, Klick's reads are a good place to start. I just see Dannflor posturing and feel ick though.

[KayJayQueue]

How? I haven't ruled out Klick as a vig shot. I think if Klick is not a vig shot, Klick's reads are a good place to start. I just see Dannflor posturing and feel ick though.

Wouldn’t the vig have come forward if that’s what happened?

[Psyche]

why would the vig come forward

[Dannflor]

i kinda just want to kill in [geraintm, Titus, Political Clout]

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I don't think Titus centering her play today around whether or not the Klick kill was a vig shot is towny. I think that's way more likely to come from scum who thinks it looks towny to "not know" where the kill came from than from town who is actually paying attention to the game. I think Titus' scum reads of me, Aristeia, and Psyche aren't actually intended to go anywhere. They are so contrived that I really think it's only supposed to make her look busy. I'm pretty sure all three of those slots are town.

1786 doesn't feel like someone who is genuinely reevaluating. Her scum reads of me/psyche have been largely based on associatives between the three of us, so I would expect a broader reevaluation from town!Titus here. instead, she just swaps Ari for NaS. This post reads like someone disappointed that they "have to" town read Aristeia for her frustration with the gamestate.

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with political clout, I think 104 is *way* too quick to back off the Hu Tao wagon and looks like a TMI town read. there's also the fact that PC spends the rest of D1 blanket calling both naerys and hu tao town, without reevaluating or really engaging with either of them at all. I think it's quite likely Naerys v Hu Tao was town versus town, but I find it very hard to believe an uninformed townie doesn't at some point get suspicious of the multiple turn abouts of either naerys or hu tao

I don't believe their town read of NaS was real either. I don't believe that PC really lock towns NaS off of the joke/not-joke post, it looks like an against the thread read that was made in order to look good. 1601 just gives me icky vibes.

in general I think PC picks at a lot of inconsistencies and asks a lot of nothing questions but doesn't really have any stake in who gets elimmed. like apparently they scum read psyche and klick and kjq yesterday but does anyone remember PC trying to get any of them killed? I find the strange town read of NaS way more memorable

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geraintm i just think would have something more to say at this point if town than making more excuses for not analyzing anything

or i think there'd be some like townie "I told you so energy" coming after D1.

I'll admit this is my weakest scum read and it's mostly PoE

[Dannflor]

i feel best about psyche and aristeia being town

next level down is like KJQ and Hu Tao

davesaz and NaS are more tentative town reads

[Dannflor]

NaS just feels tonally very towny today and i kinda think if they were scum here they would not care so much about their KJQ suspicions after claiming

[Titus]

I wouldn't. The vig would have Dann as likely scum but would see Dann as scum. He could just shoot them. Then again, probably means I should stop and wait to see if Dan's shot by night 4.

[Titus]

Got ninjaed.

I wouldn't means I wouldn't come out as vig.

[Dannflor]

i believe titus probably has the highest chance of flipping scum right now

VOTE: titus

I could probably do PC or geraintm we have to but I would really prefer this