"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
I actually do think though that May PP and Fire its more likely one is scum. It's unrealistic that multiple scum would jump on the same wagon.
And why do you think it makes them less likely to be scum, rather than it being that we're making flash wagons to extort reactions from people?
It's just less likely that they're cum if four people go against them that quickly. I do think the town on that wagon are probably exorting reactions though, so i agree there.
Yes, you've stated this before, but why is this the case? What corrolation are you making between "This person was flashwagoned" and "This person is likely not scum"?
Because if four people go against someone, it means they're likely not teaming with them, right? Or at least you can theorize it that way. Therefore four people who show they're not teaming with wosrt + me. Pretty decent odds to me.
Alright, so you have a group of 4 people who likely aren't (likely to be) knowingly aligned with Duckland.
Wouldn't it be more likely for his flashwagon to be pure, regardless of his alignment?
Duckland? I'm not really factoring in duckland here.
Why would that flashwagon be pure? Regardless of his alignment? Can you explain that logic?
The wagon would be pure if the current active players are town, much like how it would be contaminated if some of the active players are scum. Granted, if he were scum then it would be unlikely for scum to wagon him.
My point is this: Your argument appears to be that the wagon is contaminated because Duckland is town,
with the support for this that Duckland is town because his wagon is contaminated.
If there is another, unrelated reason for townreading Duckland or for scumreading his wagon, then please share it.
I actually do think though that May PP and Fire its more likely one is scum. It's unrealistic that multiple scum would jump on the same wagon.
And why do you think it makes them less likely to be scum, rather than it being that we're making flash wagons to extort reactions from people?
It's just less likely that they're cum if four people go against them that quickly. I do think the town on that wagon are probably exorting reactions though, so i agree there.
Yes, you've stated this before, but why is this the case? What corrolation are you making between "This person was flashwagoned" and "This person is likely not scum"?
Because if four people go against someone, it means they're likely not teaming with them, right? Or at least you can theorize it that way. Therefore four people who show they're not teaming with wosrt + me. Pretty decent odds to me.
Alright, so you have a group of 4 people who likely aren't (likely to be) knowingly aligned with Duckland.
Wouldn't it be more likely for his flashwagon to be pure, regardless of his alignment?
Duckland? I'm not really factoring in duckland here.
Why would that flashwagon be pure? Regardless of his alignment? Can you explain that logic?
The wagon would be pure if the current active players are town, much like how it would be contaminated if some of the active players are scum. Granted, if he were scum then it would be unlikely for scum to wagon him.
My point is this: Your argument appears to be that the wagon is contaminated because Duckland is town,
with the support for this that Duckland is town because his wagon is contaminated.
If there is another, unrelated reason for townreading Duckland or for scumreading his wagon, then please share it.
Duckland didnt factor into anything. The read only involved the worst, you, may, firebringer, and that other person
In post 1029, Jake The Wolfie wrote:[.....]
The wagon would be pure if the current active players are town, much like how it would be contaminated if some of the active players are scum. Granted, if he were scum then it would be unlikely for scum to wagon him.
My point is this: Your argument appears to be that the wagon is contaminated because Duckland is town,
with the support for this that Duckland is town because his wagon is contaminated.
If there is another, unrelated reason for townreading Duckland or for scumreading his wagon, then please share it.
Duckland didnt factor into anything. The read only involved the worst, you, may, firebringer, and that other person
[For your records, Duckland and the worst are the same person, the former is my nickname for them this game.]
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. So, you scumread at least one of Jake/May/Fire/Penguin then. Why?
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 860, Dannflor wrote:
i think the fixation on duck's inconsistency about voting him vs voting with him is the type of focus to come from scum more often than not, like it doesn't actually say anything about duck's alignment it's just poking holes at inconsistencies because that's easy to do. the follow up in 840 just seems to draw out the bit way too far, like town does mildly inconsistent shit like that all the time and i find it hard to believe pavowski has never encountered that before and feels it's worth pressuring like this
i also think 251 is scummy
+1
overjustifying joining a popular wagon is already a bit of an eyebrow raiser but the things he's using as justification aren't actually scumtells. I'm not a consistent person, and am very rarely consistent this early in a game. Pav knows me I don't think he's thought through this much.
To boot, despite this being the main thing of substance that his posts have been focused on he hasn't joined the wagon at any point which is another eyebrow raiser
I'd consider pav someone who's p capable of recognising even my tone and stuff and there's just nothing there to make me think he's tried to sort me so far :p there's some other quirks in his posting I can dig out which make me think he's more invested in the arguments he's making than in, like, observing alignment indicative stuff
This post particularly feels like Duckworth operating in good faith on me, like it seems like he's moreso trying to rattle my cage than actually pushing a scumread, which would be easy to do here.
I probably do need a good cage-rattling, my head is all over the place, but I won't bring too much of my meta into this
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 1041, gob wrote:
I just assumed Duckland was some random other player in the game tbh. lol.
Anyway I see what you mean Jake.
In post 1012, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Alright, so you have a group of 4 people who likely aren't (likely to be) knowingly aligned with Duckland.
Wouldn't it be more likely for his flashwagon to be pure, regardless of his alignment?
What did you mean by this? Like what is the logic of this statement.
I think I thunk wrong.
If Duckland is scum, then the wagon on him is already unlikely to be contaminated, as scum don't generally push eachother.
If Duckland is town, then the wagon could be contaminated, as this would be an easy early push for wolves to make.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
