Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[PenguinPower]

[Firebringer]

i don't think its a good question but im biased

[Dannflor]

I am mostly just curious i kind of doubt it's going to reveal anything alignment indicative

[PenguinPower]

It’s a question that would be good for May to answer regardless…instead of being asked to the general playerbase.

[Firebringer]

is there some sort of secret scum benefit from May not actually believing that? I guess if me and may are allies that makes sense to throw out there

[Oblivion]

Why don't u just recover first, we can bounce ideas of later

Because it has spent a bit recovering and it feels like it is already losing pacing in the game, so it really wants to stay atop things.

Alright, then go for it

It's mind has begun to converge on a section of players it wants to kill. It has a list of names for that purpose, and it wants to talk through that list.

It wishes to begin with Dave. Do you feel opposed to killing Dave today? There doesn't seem to be as much interest there despite, to its eyes, Dave being the most scummy in the thread.

[PenguinPower]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

[PenguinPower]

Post D1 is different.

[Dannflor]

how about the 4th in the draft order

[Oblivion]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?

[Firebringer]

t's mind has begun to converge on a section of players it wants to kill. It has a list of names for that purpose, and it wants to talk through that list.

It wishes to begin with Dave. Do you feel opposed to killing Dave today? There doesn't seem to be as much interest there despite, to its eyes, Dave being the most scummy in the thread.

Dave is not on my hit list right now.
I can only give u meta of previous experience with dave to tell u that nothing out of the ordinary i have seen from dave to make me think he is better than just random firing in this game to find scum.

If you got specific posts or such u want to work a scum case on him, im open to listening but most of what dave has done here is just push w/e is top wagon. He is going to rely on game mechanics to do most of the heavy lifting of sorting this game, plus VCA when he gets it. If he is scum, he can easily hide behind all this. But for instance him not actively pursuing a push on his preferred 'read', isn't something I consider scummy when he just wants wagon data and to move into the night.

[Firebringer]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

Ohh i forgot that dave is also second in draft.
That is also another reason not to kill dave.

Need a good scumcase if we go at him day 1.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I am aware that it wishes to execute Dave, but I am unaware of the wrongdoings of Dave.

[Oblivion]

t's mind has begun to converge on a section of players it wants to kill. It has a list of names for that purpose, and it wants to talk through that list.

It wishes to begin with Dave. Do you feel opposed to killing Dave today? There doesn't seem to be as much interest there despite, to its eyes, Dave being the most scummy in the thread.

Dave is not on my hit list right now.
I can only give u meta of previous experience with dave to tell u that nothing out of the ordinary i have seen from dave to make me think he is better than just random firing in this game to find scum.

If you got specific posts or such u want to work a scum case on him, im open to listening but most of what dave has done here is just push w/e is top wagon. He is going to rely on game mechanics to do most of the heavy lifting of sorting this game, plus VCA when he gets it. If he is scum, he can easily hide behind all this. But for instance him not actively pursuing a push on his preferred 'read', isn't something I consider scummy when he just wants wagon data and to move into the night.

Its issue with Dave is that he comes across as using opportunistic strategies to advance his agendas and not being transparent or townie in doing so. It's one thing to have a goal, it's another to try and accomplish that goal while remaining at arms length and being contradictory to their own beliefs while doing it.

[PenguinPower]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?

Did you miss where I said this was restricted to D1?

[Oblivion]

I am aware that it wishes to execute Dave, but I am unaware of the wrongdoings of Dave.

It's said it across several posts today, but its take on Dave's interactions with it and the thread is essentially that Dave is trying to accomplish goals like game control and shifting targets for elimination without consistent logic and with tactics it considers shady and suspicious.

[PenguinPower]

how about the 4th in the draft order

You really are making a case for you over gob.

[Firebringer]

Its issue with Dave is that he comes across as using opportunistic strategies to advance his agendas and not being transparent or townie in doing so. It's one thing to have a goal, it's another to try and accomplish that goal while remaining at arms length and being contradictory to their own beliefs while doing it.

if you can show me the scum agenda im listening, I see no agenda other than moving a wagon. Getting to the night, etc.

Do u think he is purposefully pushing players he thinks are town, if so, where?

[Jake The Wolfie]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?

Did you miss where I said this was restricted to D1?

Ye have little faith in the competency of your fellow players.

[Dannflor]

im not scared of a penguin with a gun

[Firebringer]

im not scared of a penguin with a gun

Mr Penguin with a Nuke was deadly.

[PenguinPower]

im not scared of a penguin with a gun

[Firebringer]

Im bored.

Want to hear something spicy

[the worst]

Weird thought. Could it be because gob voted your counter wagon?

nooo I was enjoying him before that vote

[Oblivion]

We are not killing the second in the draft order D1.

By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?

Did you miss where I said this was restricted to D1?

No, it did not. It knows any game has a limited number of town eliminations before we lose, and with two possible vigilantes in the game, burning townies is the last thing on its mind. It doesn't know if it agrees that we have a whole Day and Night cycle to give. If both Vigs are in the game and even one is in the hands of scum, the odds that both vigs hit town increase dramatically. It believes, as a result if we hit town day 1 without consideration, and then two vigs eventually remove two more town, we're at what 6-3? That leaves us with 1 elimination before we are in endgame.

It's just not certain that there is a good world where we can afford to say "these players are off limits for a day, go searching elsewhere". It understands the logic, infact it gets the entire concept given there are a lot of powerful town roles in the game we do not wish to expose but it really thinks that something like this should be considered the same way that number logic psychology should. A place to begin, but if a player is transparently the most scummy player in the lobby... it's not right to just allow that player to thrive unchecked.