Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[gob]

ftr i didnt expect anyone to claim. I was going to claim vig and get nk’d to cover for the real vigi. i didnt expect snow to out.

I was originally just joking saying i killed cakez but Black took it so seriously i sort of rolled with it.

[NotAScum]

ftr i didnt expect anyone to claim. I was going to claim vig and get nk’d to cover for the real vigi. i didnt expect snow to out.

I was originally just joking saying i killed cakez but Black took it so seriously i sort of rolled with it.

one minute you're saying you did it to cover the real vig, next minute you're claiming you were just joking and rolled with it. What're you going to claim next?

[Snow2697]

If we mislim Gob today, D3 can be ELo. Whom will we (or you w/o me) lim then? Cannot think of anyone better than Black. We are locked in a Black-Gob-me triangle now. This is a factor for limming Black now. There are others.
Gob's story is wierd. Joking about being vig and not expecting a real vig to come out?
Between Gob and Black, I would vote for Gob.
If he is town and Black or someone else is mislimmed on D3, Gob's game and my N1 shot will cost town this game. So be it.
If he is scum, there is no ELo tomorrow. Good. Time to look around.

VOTE: Gob

[Black]

o7 gob

[gob]

o7

[Ausuka]

Little owl - Athene noctua

The little owl can be identified by their small size relative to other animals, their brown feathers with white spots, and their piercing yellow glare. This bird is native to Eurasia, from France to China, but it was first introduced into the UK by humans in the 1800s. It has similarly been introduced to New Zealand, but not Australia for whatever reason. For the most part, it eats small birds and small mammals, but it can also eat worms. It is monogamous and will often stay with a single partner for most of its life. Due to its large range, it is rated LC by the IUCN. Its population trend appears to be stable.

VOTECOUNT 2.2

gob (6)

- Black, Naerys, NotAScum, Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Snow2697

Black (3)

- gob, Save the Dragons

Not Voting (4)

- shaddowez, SmileyDude1, Snow2697

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2024-03-06 10:33:47).

[Ausuka]

gob was eliminated on Day 2. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 2 begins now and ends in (expired on 2024-03-03 11:02:28). Please submit any night actions before then.

[Ausuka]

Snow2697 was killed on Night 2. He was a

Town Odd-Night Vigilante

.

[Ausuka]

(flavour later, daystart now)

VOTECOUNT 3.0

Not Voting (8)

- Black, Hu Tao, Naerys, NotAScum, Random Nurse, Save the Dragons, shaddowez, SmileyDude1

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2024-03-10 17:16:48).

[Black]

VOTE: Random Nurse

I think the way he initially sided with gob to try and get me faded indicates he was part of the scum agenda. There's a chance he was just scumsiding as town, I just don't think the thought process of "gob is lying scum, but my gut is telling me Black is his partner so I want to go Black first" makes any sense for a townie to have. He didn't back off of me and switch to gob until gob's lim was inevitable

I have a theory on the third but I want to keep that under wraps for now

[Black]

T3->NotScum->Nurse------->Black--> (everyone else not in my keep category)

This would describe where i'm at in terms of priority launch order right now.

My thoughts about T3 212 still hold up. I'm not sure what to make of there 449 walkback. Gut instinct, it feels bad to me to 180 on their position given the other posts within the ISO but I probs need to think on it more.

I'm taking NotScum's 464 as a sign they may become easier to get a read on from day 2 onward (otherwise they'd probs be on the same rank as T3 for not providing much to work with)


VOTE: T3

Out of curiosity what's your reasoning for me being there?

I would hate to think you're being opportunistic.

This feels overly defensive

If it means preventing a no-lim I am open to hammering.

VOTE: T3

Clock is running out.

VOTE: no lim

Are you new?

We NEED info Night 1. Please put your vote back on T3.

While these posts aren't inherently scummy, the desperation I'm sensing here feels more of the scummy nature. In particular I don't like the way Nurse addresses Ari here. He accuses her of being new instead of being scum and asks her to put her vote back on T3. I think this is an indication that Nurse knew Ari was town

[Black]

I think in general the way RN doesn't really sus any of the "no lim" crowd is pretty noteworthy to me. I think town!RN would find this behavior scummy, but he doesn't really seem too bothered by it. At least not in a "I'm trying to figure out your alignment" kind of way

[SmileyDude1]

Checking in.

Read through Black/Gob interactions again upon daystart ocurring and I think I stand by what I said earlier in that I don't think Black is a partner here. Fairly certain she's just town here.

While doing this I noticed that there were multiple instances of NotScum believing that Gob is a goon (999, 926) and i'm wondering if this could be a freudian slip (like predicting Gob is a "goon" only for him to flip as a goon looks like you knew he was going to flip as that scum role). Checking through their ISO I also don't vibe with their progression on Gob yesterday with NaS trying to defend Gob against Snow and Black at first, before voting them later after most people stated they believed Snow over Gob

VOTE: NotScum

Would you mind explaining the above

[Naerys]

Hi
sorry i didnt manage to answer you, shadow, hope you dont mind if i postpone that till tomorrow

[Hu Tao]

I think I need to reread a bit of yesterday

[SmileyDude1]

Find myself agreeing with Black's case on Nurse as well. Would say there's probs at least 1 in Nurse/NAS right now

[Black]

Smiley town

I think one of Nurse/NAS is scum but probably not both. This is a gut feeling based on 474. The way Nurse asks this makes me think they're unpartnered

Currently I'm feeling like NAS is just newtown but I should probably reevaluate

[Black]

Well it looks like I copied Smiley's thought there but I swear I didn't

[Black]

What if there are two vigs who both shot cakez

I don't like this line of thought.

I don't see how there'd be two Vigs in a 13-player game. Doesn't fit.

What if there are two vigs who both shot cakez

I don't like this line of thought.

I don't see how there'd be two Vigs in a 13-player game. Doesn't fit.

Can it be that town has 2 vigs at the expense of lifting another power role?

I highly, highly doubt it, because now you're talking three potential kills in one night.

No, I don't see that as a possibility one bit, and I do challenge Scum to offer me their heads if they disagree.

Gut pinging on Gob and Black.

I mean yeah it doesn't feel very logical to want to fade me instead of the guy you think is fake claiming Vig

…


Did I say that?

I said my gut pinged on both Gob and you. That’s it.

Over-extend much?

This fourth quote doesn't go with the first three quotes. RN is of the mindset that there cannot be two Vigs, and he thinks one of Snow/gob is lying scum (994). It feels weird that RN gets defensive and acts like I'm accusing him of taking some absurd stance by saying he wants to fade me over someone he thinks is fake claiming Vig. This reaction feels really bad

[Black]

I mean yeah it doesn't feel very logical to want to fade me instead of the guy you think is fake claiming Vig

…


Did I say that?

I said my gut pinged on both Gob and you. That’s it.

Over-extend much?

Why do you scumread gob?

I didn’t say that.

I just feel two Vigs can’t exist and between Gob and Snow my gut pinged on Gob.

Can’t exactly explain intuition.

Also why is RN so reluctant to express a scumread on Gob here? If he's scum then maybe he thinks it'll hurt or discredit the Mafia's attempted push on me

[SmileyDude1]

Looking through Gob's early day 1. I feel pretty confident that StD is also town here. I feel the repeated attempts at an StD push from Gob suggest that's not partnered either. I feel especially that 203 using an oog argument in order to attempt an StD push feels a bit dishonest in such a manner that I'd believe would be unlikely to come from scumbuddies distancing. It's tricky to explain, but To me, it just intuitively feels like StD is town here based on Gob's day 1 interaction with them.

[Black]

I need to say it before I go to sleep.

1) There's no way there's two Vigs in thus game, so one if Gob/Snow are lying and thus Scum.

2) Some of Black's recent posts pinged my gut. I play based on gut. Her over-reactions piqued my interest. Haven't even poked at her, just said she pinged my gut (OMG!), and she responded more than what seemed normal. When I awake I'll probably reach out a singular claw and give a little tickle. That ought to be fun. See you soon.

This just feels like an overjustification to vote for me over gob. If scum's plan was to try and get me faded over gob then this fits in so freaking perfectly

Gut pinging on Gob and Black.

VOTE: Black

Then why not just vote gob?

I can sort those two out later: one of them is clearly Scum.

This one is really starting my gut.

"One is clearly scum but I'm going with gut instead" just can't be a townie progression here. This had to have been part of an agenda to fade me

[Black]

Looking through Gob's early day 1. I feel pretty confident that StD is also town here. I feel the repeated attempts at an StD push from Gob suggest that's not partnered either. I feel especially that 203 using an oog argument in order to attempt an StD push feels a bit dishonest in such a manner that I'd believe would be unlikely to come from scumbuddies distancing. It's tricky to explain, but To me, it just intuitively feels like StD is town here based on Gob's day 1 interaction with them.

I agree. I think if RN flips scum then StD is even more likely town based on a theory I have that all the "no-lim" crowd was town and that's why RN couldn't really sus them. We already know Ari and Snow were town. If NAS is town then I would think StD would be too in this scum!RN world

[Black]

Smiley what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[SmileyDude1]

I think in general I feel pretty good about her atm. I'm currently combing through Gob at the moment though, so that maybe could change things.

Speaking of which, feels like Gob was consistently transitioning between feeling neutral on Naerys and shading/scumreading her. Would say it feels less partnery to me right now