Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[Brian Skies]

brian flashwagon dreams will have to wait another day.

There is still time! Don't give up yet!

[Jake The Wolfie]

brian flashwagon dreams will have to wait another day.

There is still time! Don't give up yet!

Unfortunately, the universe is too cold now for fusion. The universe is set, we are in the Dark Ages now.

[Brian Skies]

We aren’t yeeting dave or Pav today.

what's your cutoff line, then, 4th?

Idk…I don’t want a hard line but the top 3 or 4 likely got a role or got nothing and can get caught…yesireeish is the line.

I find this very restrictive and would mainly want a boring ol' NotAScum wagon.

[yessiree]

I've had several recent town losses where scum was eliminated d1 and it didn't help in the slightest.

This is a vibe I'm starting to get from the concept of yeeting NotAScum

HUH?

i think NotAScum is pretty yeetable and probably actually scum but it doesn't feel like a smart wagon rn

yea i had to do a double take on this because reading it made me raise an eyebrow first and then reading the explanation gave me whiplash

if u think the former, you wouldn't have an issue with people pushing that slot
if u think the latter, you wouldn't have held that predisposition in the first place

i dont mean this as a "gotcha" like i caught soemone doing a contradiction, i genuinely can't imagine how u can come to these conflicting opinions about a particular slot

am i being too harsh on ducky? or i just dont like the way he waddles right now

[yessiree]

EDWOP

predisposition -> proposition

[the worst]

to lift the curtain a bit when I read Dave's 1090 a little voice in the back of my mind was like "I wonder if we eliminated NAS and NAS flipped red if we'd have one of those games where we hit d1 then lose in 5p"

I do think NAS is pretty scummy even in the context of lhf. I might call u boring if u vote there but I won't fight you on it, I don't think NAS is a bad lim honestly and if day was ending in 14 seconds I'd probably be advocating that we flashyeet NAS!

this is a messy game to sort satisfactorily tho and given thw impeccable standards of NAS' posts so far, I fear he may have peaked and that wagoning him further would be fruitless.



less poetically: he's refusing to play or interact. I doubt wagoning him will fix that. why bother when we can do things that'll actually be interesting?

[yessiree]

that's fair if u think pushing NAS won't compel him to produce any meaningful content, but it should still force his teammates to make a play around it, so that should still be a net positive imo

thats the reason im so hung up on that take

[Brian Skies]

I think yessiree might be town, which makes Pav less scummy.

[Brian Skies]

[oblivion, jake]
[the worst, firebringer, May]
[PP, june, davesaz]
[gob]
[yessireee, notascum]
[brian skies, pavowski]

[overconfident town reads]
[town reads that i am more likely to paranoia/reevaluate]
[small town leans]
[null]
[scum leans]
[overconfident scum reads]

True story. Dannflor grouped me with both of my stated scumreads and called me an

overconfident

scumread.

[Brian Skies]

Well, if we count NotAScum, then it's three of my stated scumreads. So apparently I'm just hardbussing my teammates.

[Pavowski]

Duck Hunt is the game May was referring to.

Thank you AI

*whispers* friendship over.

I lol'd

[Pavowski]

I don't get the feeling that yessiree is looking for scum.

This. Yes.

[the worst]

that's fair if u think pushing NAS won't compel him to produce any meaningful content, but it should still force his teammates to make a play around it, so that should still be a net positive imo

thats the reason im so hung up on that take

this is part of why I'm sceptical - preference for playing against it vs. playing into it (bus equity) is so meh that I don't think I'd have any clue where his buddies were.

[the worst]

I think yessiree might be town, which makes Pav less scummy.

what about yessiree strikes u as town, is it a current thing or a catching up & considering thing?

[May]

Brian didn't you backpedal your pav read

So why would it be unreasonable to see you with pav as scum

Why is this even remotely the most important thing in the thread to you anyway

VOTE: Brian Skies

[May]

Brian all your posts read like a gold 1 Lucian that has absorbed all the souls of everyone in bronze silver and gold and has all their MMR absorbed into homonculus of souls but can't break into any originality of plat 5 because you're not town senna's love brings no warmth

[May]

If you're into the cogload/scum don't get jokes stuff even a little bit, then it's pretty oof that Brian parsed overconfident scumread = confident scumread

[May]

I think preflip associations being 80% of your content when it's more naturally 20% is bad town game emulation

[May]

I'm confident enough Brian is scum I feel disappointed about catching the car

It's too early

Shake my conviction Brian

[Brian Skies]

I don't get the feeling that yessiree is looking for scum.

What makes you say this?

[Brian Skies]

Brian didn't you backpedal your pav read

So why would it be unreasonable to see you with pav as scum

Why is this even remotely the most important thing in the thread to you anyway

VOTE: Brian Skies

Firebringer:

Instantly votes me at gamestart. I do feel as though I would be a priority sort for town-Firebringer. His posting doesn't begin to feel like Firebringer until later pages. 317 is probably town, but probably not for the reason you're thinking.

Dunnstral:

Dunnstral's 34 felt town, particularly in that he was interested in voting in a list that included himself. He does go on to self-meta, but I don't find that alignment indicative. Later posting feels town.

the worst:

I wanted to vote the worst in my first post. Then 19 pages happened. 114 is as close to what I was going to do that I'm willing to townread the worst for it. 370 feels town.

davesaz:

99 feels like a townpost. I like davesaz's insistence on keeping town on track and focusing on things that are actually alignment indicative rather than draft speculation that currently has no legs to stand on.

PenguinPower:

Posting on page 7 feels town.

Gob:

The early speculation on draft information feels town, regardless of whether I agree with it. 47 feels town. 295 is probably town.

May:

Hypocrisy feels town in 168. Page 8 feels town.

June:

Cats are cool, I guess. This is about as high as I can place her considering those above her have been townier than the literal only thing June has accomplished thus far.

Jake:

Town? ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Oblivion:

I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about their posting, the way they say things, that just feels off. I do not like their 40. No definitive stance was taken, so they ended up saying a lot without actually contributing anything of value. 260 feels slightly town, but the entire interaction regarding the 'mason-blocking' feels a bit overblown. Asks a lot of questions but doesn't contribute anything of value itself. It just feels very empty considering how many words it has.

NotAScum:

I feel as though scum are more likely to refuse to catch up and read a game than town. Low confidence read. Not Mafia alt?

yessiree/Pavowski:

203 happened just two minutes after 201. Considering they are both entrance posts, I'm concerned of early bussing. 259 is the OMGUS from yessiree. Rule of 3 names with Pavowski in the middle. Highly suspicious. 439 is a bad post.

[oblivion, jake]
[the worst, firebringer, May]
[PP, june, davesaz]
[gob]
[yessireee, notascum]
[brian skies, pavowski]

[overconfident town reads]
[town reads that i am more likely to paranoia/reevaluate]
[small town leans]
[null]
[scum leans]
[overconfident scum reads]

He literally took my bottom three reads, and grouped me with them. Me backpedaling on a read has nothing to do with the post that HE made.

[Brian Skies]

Brian all your posts read like a gold 1 Lucian that has absorbed all the souls of everyone in bronze silver and gold and has all their MMR absorbed into homonculus of souls but can't break into any originality of plat 5 because you're not town senna's love brings no warmth

When I played, I was a support player.

[Brian Skies]

If you're into the cogload/scum don't get jokes stuff even a little bit, then it's pretty oof that Brian parsed overconfident scumread = confident scumread

I don't see what confident v overconfident has to do with anything. They both represent the same idea.

[Brian Skies]

Hey look May, I can make several posts in a row too!

[Brian Skies]

Making me constantly catch up on 19, 10, 20 pages of content just to be present in the conversation because you don't know how to coalesce all your thoughts into
a single post. Like, please, eliminate me. It's pro-town and will end my suffering.