Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Black]

shaddow why did you not comment on the gob/Snow situation until you were asked about it?

I had been in the office that day, so was catching up when I got back to my hotel that evening between dinner and everything else. Timing just happened to work out that way.

When you were catching up you didn't say anything about the gob/Snow stuff though. You pointed out that Snow wasn't 1-shot and you asked Naerys about her StD read. Why did you wait until Smiley asked you about the situation before sharing your thoughts about it?

[shaddowez]

shaddow why did you not comment on the gob/Snow situation until you were asked about it?

I had been in the office that day, so was catching up when I got back to my hotel that evening between dinner and everything else. Timing just happened to work out that way.

When you were catching up you didn't say anything about the gob/Snow stuff though. You pointed out that Snow wasn't 1-shot and you asked Naerys about her StD read. Why did you wait until Smiley asked you about the situation before sharing your thoughts about it?

I had 5 posts in about a 2 hour period, including the one where I answered. My other comments were all responses to a single comment, not the situation as a whole. I was responding to the situation, it just happened that Smiley directly asked me about it before I got to post it.

[NotAScum]

everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.

You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?

[Hu Tao]

Yes, I'm trying to convince smiley that it's sus that everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through. I don't think everyone willing to vote me is sus clearly it's just that it seems to be the easy vote.

Even though I'm the only one that's only voted you?

Yes it's not about votes it's about willingness. And it's been that way since yesterday

So you think Smiley should consider you town because there has been a willingness to vote for you?

There's been a willingness to vote for NAS and RN as well. Are they both town?

There hasn't been as much. We have tried and neither got done.

[Hu Tao]

I'm back and catching up, but based on what I've read so far I'm comfortable with HT. Her defense on Naerys, regardless of Naerys' alignment, feels like it's forced and not a real town read. Some of the assumptions/reasonings there don't come off as legit.

VOTE: Hu Tao

How come you don't question my read on you?

Because you already said you were going to look more into me, and I care more about trying to find actual scum than waste time asking about people's reads on me.

So you think I'm scum because of my Naerys read but smiley had a similar read to me, which I stated before him

1. Not just because of this
2. Smiley shows his work, doesn't just state final thoughts.
3. I've never said that I agree with Smiley's Naerys read, but based on the above 2 I haven't found anything to directly question about it just yet.

Have you played with me before?

Can you answer this question BTW. Not sure if you missed it

[Hu Tao]

everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.

You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?

This post is so forced omg. How does no one see this as scum

[NotAScum]

This post is so forced omg. How does no one see this as scum

It wasnt and you didnt answer the question, proving me right once again.

Hu Tao

[NotAScum]

VOTE: Hu Tao

[Black]

StD do you not have a preference within your lim pool? You seem to just be following the wagons around

[Hu Tao]

Can't wait for it to be shadow and NAS and somehow I get blamed after

[Hu Tao]

I'm willing to vote RN if you are willing to reevaluate NAS tomorrow, Black

[Hu Tao]

Watch it be RN and I'm being dumb

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: RN

[Black]

UNVOTE:

No hammers yet. I want to milk this day for all it's worth

[Hu Tao]

I think that was only 3 votes but okay

[SmileyDude1]

Black, I see your point in your 1364.

Honestly I think there's a part of me that feels like it might be tunneled in regards to wanting Nurse/NAS, and I feel like i'm being pulled into certain directions right now due to my status. Thinking about it, I probably should stop procrastinating and actually go back and do a deep dive on Hu Tao. I plan on letting myself decompress for a little while beforehand so I can look at it with fresh eyes. Expect my conclusion on that anywhere between later tonight and sometime tomorrow at the very latest.


I do have some questions for Hu Tao while i'm away in regards to her 1395

1. Who would you say are your top 2 most suspect out of those who stated a willingness to vote you? Given your stances earlier I'd assume 1 of them is probably NAS but i'm wondering who else you see as potential scum in that group.

2. Do you think we're in a gamestate where it's impossible/unlikely that town would be able to collectively and correctly agree to vote scum here? If yes, why do you think this? If no, why do you think that the willingness to vote you is sus rather than misguided?

[SmileyDude1]

Oh yeah also UNVOTE: Random Nurse. Until I finish this at least.

[Random Nurse]

Random Nurse may have site flaked

If he's town then maybe a replacement will be able to show us that

I am here. At work again for 16 hours.

[Random Nurse]

I don't understand why I'm being voted.

I felt one if gob/snow were Scum and voted gob, but I also felt that Black's exchanges with Gob were Scum theater. So I guess I'm getting voted because I said my gut made me think Black/gob were Scum-Scum. It makes NO sense whatsoever to try to shade/lim me for that, and it's not fair to tell me I have to try to logically explain a gut feeling. I play primarily based on gut!

[Black]

I don't understand why I'm being voted.

I felt one if gob/snow were Scum and voted gob

, but I also felt that Black's exchanges with Gob were Scum theater. So I guess I'm getting voted because I said my gut made me think Black/gob were Scum-Scum. It makes NO sense whatsoever to try to shade/lim me for that, and it's not fair to tell me I have to try to logically explain a gut feeling. I play primarily based on gut!

This isn't true. You felt like one of gob/Snow was scum and then you voted me. That's the primary reason I'm suspicious of you. You were pivotal in our wagons being tied at 3-3 and it felt like you were trying to keep gob alive

[Random Nurse]

I don't understand why I'm being voted.

I felt one if gob/snow were Scum and voted gob

, but I also felt that Black's exchanges with Gob were Scum theater. So I guess I'm getting voted because I said my gut made me think Black/gob were Scum-Scum. It makes NO sense whatsoever to try to shade/lim me for that, and it's not fair to tell me I have to try to logically explain a gut feeling. I play primarily based on gut!

This isn't true. You felt like one of gob/Snow was scum and then you voted me. That's the primary reason I'm suspicious of you. You were pivotal in our wagons being tied at 3-3 and it felt like you were trying to keep gob alive

I thought I had voted gob.

The reason I voted you is because I felt your exchanges with gob were Scum and Scum, and after limming you I could always go back to gob and lim him next.

[Hu Tao]

Black, I see your point in your 1364.

Honestly I think there's a part of me that feels like it might be tunneled in regards to wanting Nurse/NAS, and I feel like i'm being pulled into certain directions right now due to my status. Thinking about it, I probably should stop procrastinating and actually go back and do a deep dive on Hu Tao. I plan on letting myself decompress for a little while beforehand so I can look at it with fresh eyes. Expect my conclusion on that anywhere between later tonight and sometime tomorrow at the very latest.

I do have some questions for Hu Tao while i'm away in regards to her 1395

1. Who would you say are your top 2 most suspect out of those who stated a willingness to vote you? Given your stances earlier I'd assume 1 of them is probably NAS but i'm wondering who else you see as potential scum in that group.

2. Do you think we're in a gamestate where it's impossible/unlikely that town would be able to collectively and correctly agree to vote scum here? If yes, why do you think this? If no, why do you think that the willingness to vote you is sus rather than misguided?

These feel like interview questions

1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town. Unless there is another PR out there hiding.

2. Err. I think it's possible which is why I asked if Black would be willing to re-evaluate if RN flips town. Because she seems to have a town read on NAS and that looks like our downfall if so.

[Hu Tao]

I know what I'm about to say no one will believe since it's self meta but today if I was scum there is no way I don't just go along with RN at the beginning of the day and try to push the vote away (assuming RN and I aren't partners) but even then I think it would better to bus in that's situation

[Black]

I don't understand why I'm being voted.

I felt one if gob/snow were Scum and voted gob

, but I also felt that Black's exchanges with Gob were Scum theater. So I guess I'm getting voted because I said my gut made me think Black/gob were Scum-Scum. It makes NO sense whatsoever to try to shade/lim me for that, and it's not fair to tell me I have to try to logically explain a gut feeling. I play primarily based on gut!

This isn't true. You felt like one of gob/Snow was scum and then you voted me. That's the primary reason I'm suspicious of you. You were pivotal in our wagons being tied at 3-3 and it felt like you were trying to keep gob alive

I thought I had voted gob.

The reason I voted you is because I felt your exchanges with gob were Scum and Scum, and after limming you I could always go back to gob and lim him next.

Why did you want to fade me before gob though? Wouldn't it have made sense from your POV to fade gob first just to be completely sure you're not wrong about our partner interactions?

Do you at least see why I think scum!you would try to fade me first, and then reevaluate on your scumbuddy gob D3 after I flipped town?

[Black]

1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town.

Unless there is another PR out there hiding.

This simultaneously feels like you're trying to bait out another PR and also leave the door open to push me if one does. Do you think 4 PRs is abnormal?