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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:32 pm

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In post 1422, Hu Tao wrote: I know what I'm about to say no one will believe since it's self meta but today if I was scum there is no way I don't just go along with RN at the beginning of the day and try to push the vote away (assuming RN and I aren't partners) but even then I think it would better to bus in that's situation
What do you mean "go along with RN"? Like vote with him? Or vote for him? Neither of those make sense in a scum!you world. You were considering us both as TvT the day before and you kept mentioning wanting to go for NAS first. Voting me or RN would seem pretty unnatural and scummy tbh
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:03 pm

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In post 1424, Black wrote:
In post 1421, Hu Tao wrote: 1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town.
Unless there is another PR out there hiding.
This simultaneously feels like you're trying to bait out another PR and also leave the door open to push me if one does. Do you think 4 PRs is abnormal?
Why would I bait as scum. Even if I did, it's clear Smiley is the strong PR so I'd get rid of him. Tomorrow would be full claim day anyway regardless if we get scum or not. And I doubt there is another pr with a neo and vig
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:03 pm

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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:05 pm

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In post 1425, Black wrote:
In post 1422, Hu Tao wrote: I know what I'm about to say no one will believe since it's self meta but today if I was scum there is no way I don't just go along with RN at the beginning of the day and try to push the vote away (assuming RN and I aren't partners) but even then I think it would better to bus in that's situation
What do you mean "go along with RN"? Like vote with him? Or vote for him? Neither of those make sense in a scum!you world. You were considering us both as TvT the day before and you kept mentioning wanting to go for NAS first. Voting me or RN would seem pretty unnatural and scummy tbh
I would just vote him. There is no reason to cause resistance. Because getting an elimination is more important. Especially when I laid the ground work of there being a scum in RN/NAS
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:20 pm

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In post 1423, Black wrote:
In post 1420, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 1419, Black wrote:
In post 1418, Random Nurse wrote: I don't understand why I'm being voted.

I felt one if gob/snow were Scum and voted gob
, but I also felt that Black's exchanges with Gob were Scum theater. So I guess I'm getting voted because I said my gut made me think Black/gob were Scum-Scum. It makes NO sense whatsoever to try to shade/lim me for that, and it's not fair to tell me I have to try to logically explain a gut feeling. I play primarily based on gut!
This isn't true. You felt like one of gob/Snow was scum and then you voted me. That's the primary reason I'm suspicious of you. You were pivotal in our wagons being tied at 3-3 and it felt like you were trying to keep gob alive

I thought I had voted gob.

The reason I voted you is because I felt your exchanges with gob were Scum and Scum, and after limming you I could always go back to gob and lim him next.
Why did you want to fade me before gob though? Wouldn't it have made sense from your POV to fade gob first just to be completely sure you're not wrong about our partner interactions?

Do you at least see why I think scum!you would try to fade me first, and then reevaluate on your scumbuddy gob D3 after I flipped town?

Well, if I were Scum it'd be easier for me to just bus gob because we already knew one of them had to be Scum and it was likely gob. As Town I felt it was a sure thing and after you flipped I would have gone after gob regardless. At this point it feels like you're trying to tell me how to play as Town, when I play my own way as town.

If I were Scum it'd be much easier for me to just bus gob first. As Town I tend to go against the grain, consequences be dawned, because I'm not interested in self-preservation unless I have a cool PR. The fact that I went against the grain here instead of going the easy route of launching gob might tell you I'm actually Town.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:20 pm

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In post 1428, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1425, Black wrote:
In post 1422, Hu Tao wrote: I know what I'm about to say no one will believe since it's self meta but today if I was scum there is no way I don't just go along with RN at the beginning of the day and try to push the vote away (assuming RN and I aren't partners) but even then I think it would better to bus in that's situation
What do you mean "go along with RN"? Like vote with him? Or vote for him? Neither of those make sense in a scum!you world. You were considering us both as TvT the day before and you kept mentioning wanting to go for NAS first. Voting me or RN would seem pretty unnatural and scummy tbh
I would just vote him. There is no reason to cause resistance. Because getting an elimination is more important. Especially when I laid the ground work of there being a scum in RN/NAS

So, I see you've shifted quite a bit since earlier, and I'm unsure how to read this now. Maybe Black really is Town then.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:23 pm

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In post 1425, Black wrote:
In post 1422, Hu Tao wrote: I know what I'm about to say no one will believe since it's self meta but today if I was scum there is no way I don't just go along with RN at the beginning of the day and try to push the vote away (assuming RN and I aren't partners) but even then I think it would better to bus in that's situation
What do you mean "go along with RN"? Like vote with him? Or vote for him? Neither of those make sense in a scum!you world. You were considering us both as TvT the day before and you kept mentioning wanting to go for NAS first. Voting me or RN would seem pretty unnatural and scummy tbh

I can't tell which alignment you are currently.

I do notice Hu Tao's obvious shift though, which is starting to make me suspect her. Usually when someone quickly goes from "oh, you're Town" to "just vote him" in a short period of time I take that as inconsistency and likely Scum-motivated.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:37 pm

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VOTE: Hu Tao
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:40 pm

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How did I shift? If I said 1 of you and NAS are scum but preferred Nas?
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:25 am

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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:31 am

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In post 1434, Naerys wrote: rereading time
Yay

I hope you're feeling better
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:18 am

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In post 1402, NotAScum wrote:
In post 1395, Hu Tao wrote: everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.
You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?
this post indeed feels very forced
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:19 am

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In post 1421, Hu Tao wrote: These feel like interview questions 💀
What would you say is your biggest weakness?
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:20 am

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In post 1408, Black wrote: StD do you not have a preference within your lim pool? You seem to just be following the wagons around
lazy me really doesn't care i think all three are sus to some degree and wouldn't mind clearing all three slots away
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:40 am

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In post 1421, Hu Tao wrote: 1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town. Unless there is another PR out there hiding.
Well, now I'm curious. You said you were going to look back into me, asked why I didn't ask about my read on you, and now all of a sudden after I voted you I'm in your top two. What reasons do you have for your read on me?
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:43 am

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In post 1436, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1402, NotAScum wrote:
In post 1395, Hu Tao wrote: everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.
You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?
this post indeed feels very forced
Unfortunately I don't think black will vote Nas today which limits us voting actual scum
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:45 am

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In post 1439, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1421, Hu Tao wrote: 1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town. Unless there is another PR out there hiding.
Well, now I'm curious. You said you were going to look back into me, asked why I didn't ask about my read on you, and now all of a sudden after I voted you I'm in your top two. What reasons do you have for your read on me?
Well. I think I explained this already. I think nas/rn has one scum only. I think naerys is town. Dragons is conf town. Only leaves you left
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:50 am

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Hu do you think 4 PRs would be abnormal here
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:09 am

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In post 1442, Black wrote: Hu do you think 4 PRs would be abnormal here
Yes since we have a vigilante and neo. Unless scum have strong roles too but we've only seen a goon
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:29 am

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In post 1441, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1439, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1421, Hu Tao wrote: 1. NAS and Shadow is who I'm thinking at the moment. I agree that Black is likely town. Unless there is another PR out there hiding.
Well, now I'm curious. You said you were going to look back into me, asked why I didn't ask about my read on you, and now all of a sudden after I voted you I'm in your top two. What reasons do you have for your read on me?
Well. I think I explained this already. I think nas/rn has one scum only. I think naerys is town. Dragons is conf town. Only leaves you left
So you don't have any explicit scum reads based on activity, just PoE based on people you're townreading?
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:31 am

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In post 1440, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1436, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1402, NotAScum wrote:
In post 1395, Hu Tao wrote: everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.
You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?
this post indeed feels very forced
Unfortunately I don't think black will vote Nas today which limits us voting actual scum
It could be me, but this sounds like TMI
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:32 am

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In post 1436, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1402, NotAScum wrote:
In post 1395, Hu Tao wrote: everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.
You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?
this post indeed feels very forced
Are you referring to NAS or HT here?
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:32 am

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In post 1435, Black wrote:
In post 1434, Naerys wrote: rereading time
Yay

I hope you're feeling better
I also hope you're feeling better. How's the reading coming along?
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:33 am

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In post 1443, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1442, Black wrote: Hu do you think 4 PRs would be abnormal here
Yes since we have a vigilante and neo. Unless scum have strong roles too but we've only seen a goon
Seems like a weird take considering we don't know what PRs the scumteam has. Vig and Neo aren't super strong power roles and can often time be a detriment to the town (vig killing a townie, neo targeting a town PR)

Most Mini Normal games I looked over have at least 4 town PRs so I'm not sure where this opinion is coming from if you're town. I fully understand where it's coming from if you're scum
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:35 am

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In post 1445, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1440, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1436, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1402, NotAScum wrote:
In post 1395, Hu Tao wrote: everyone is seemingly fine with me being eliminated but the other votes have trouble going through.
You're getting quite nervous HT, do you feel everyone else is conspiring against you?
this post indeed feels very forced
Unfortunately I don't think black will vote Nas today which limits us voting actual scum
It could be me, but this sounds like TMI
Now you're just scum posting. How is this TMI? Unless you're saying that Nas and I are partners?

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