Micro Normal 1100 | Game Over

[Doctor Drew]

Drew might have manipulated me into killing a townie, but if I don't vote here, he crucifies me. Well played if you really are scum, Drew, but a snow lim is not NOT what I want, so I'm frankly fine with this.

Wut????

I am the only one scum reading you.

If anything this makes me want to unvote snow

UNVOTE:

Why does that matter, that you're the only one suspecting me? I trust that people have powers of persuasion in this game.

What sort of influence do I have that leads to your 'crucifiction'?

[RolandOfGilead]

If that's how you want to frame it, sure.

It's 1 am here, I sure hope that leaving my scum partner at 1 vote while I go unconscious for 7 hours and while another guy who has strongly implied he will finish snow off is around here and likely to pull the trigger does not somehow go terribly wrong!

[RolandOfGilead]

Drew might have manipulated me into killing a townie, but if I don't vote here, he crucifies me. Well played if you really are scum, Drew, but a snow lim is not NOT what I want, so I'm frankly fine with this.

Wut????

I am the only one scum reading you.

If anything this makes me want to unvote snow

UNVOTE:

Why does that matter, that you're the only one suspecting me? I trust that people have powers of persuasion in this game.

What sort of influence do I have that leads to your 'crucifiction'?

Your ten thousand post count. It's gotta count for something. Don't be all coy with me and act like it doesn't.

Good night.

[Doctor Drew]

If that's how you want to frame it, sure.

It's 1 am here, I sure hope that leaving my scum partner at 1 vote while I go unconscious for 7 hours and while another guy who has strongly implied he will finish snow off is around here and likely to pull the trigger does not somehow go terribly wrong!

You do need some help with math

[KayJayQueue]

My redeye is about to take off so I’ll be (hopefully) unconscious for the next several hours. Can’t wait to see the chaos I wake up to!

[RolandOfGilead]

If that's how you want to frame it, sure.

It's 1 am here, I sure hope that leaving my scum partner at 1 vote while I go unconscious for 7 hours and while another guy who has strongly implied he will finish snow off is around here and likely to pull the trigger does not somehow go terribly wrong!

You do need some help with math

Can you not be rude and just tell me what I supposedly got wrong?

[RolandOfGilead]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do, then I'm going for the thing I want anyway.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[KayJayQueue]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do

Dang, I always miss all the fun.

[DragonEater70]

Votecount 1.11

Votecount 1.11

Not_Mafia (3):

Not_Mafia, Solon, RolandofGilead

E-2

Snow2697 (1)

FancyPants

RolandofGilead (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (4):

GuyInFreezer, Snow2697, JacksonVirgo, KayJayQueue

With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-03-13 05:56:04)

Mod Notes

Please let me know if I've made any error with the VC.

[Doctor Drew]

If that's how you want to frame it, sure.

It's 1 am here, I sure hope that leaving my scum partner at 1 vote while I go unconscious for 7 hours and while another guy who has strongly implied he will finish snow off is around here and likely to pull the trigger does not somehow go terribly wrong!

You do need some help with math

Can you not be rude and just tell me what I supposedly got wrong?

You got the math wrong just as you pointed out how I had a spelling mistake

[Doctor Drew]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do

Dang, I always miss all the fun.

I am an ass man

[Snow2697]

I cannot be portrayed as Roland's teammate. I actually called him sus which put me immediately under fire. So, Drew's claim that he is the only one suspecting Roland is unfair.
But I don't think that going after Roland in a 2-scum scenario should be considered now.

[Solon]

Drew's recent interactions seem more townie. Roland I still think is probably town, but he's talking to his scumread like he knows he's town, which is quite suspicious. I'm also a little uneasy about some of his votes putting players to E-1 today.

There's no way I can justify limming Roland over Not_Mafia, however.

[Solon]

It's a shame actually, as I would like to pursue Roland more based on recent posts, but I can't in all honestly when a slot like NM exists.

It's unfortunate, but I just can't accept such a slot surviving late into the game to cause more chaos.

[Solon]

Btw, how it is that Gob can be kicked from the game for not playing to his win condition but Not Mafia isn't?

Could it be because Gob is town and Not_Mafia is scum? Being anti-town therefore wouldn't be against his win con.

[Snow2697]

What is noteworthy about Drew is that he seems to complain about people not following him in voting vs Roland without actually putting his case against Roland.
You can withhold your case vs an adversary for a while, you can probably request a couple of votes on a player to stimulate or provoke him/her, but you cannot expect that others will join you and lim him/her in the absence of clear arguments.

[Solon]

A Roland/guy in freezer partnership has crossed my mind on a couple of occassions so just wanted to float that out there. Will be a tough game if this is indeed the scum team.

[Solon]

I cannot be portrayed as Roland's teammate. I actually called him sus which put me immediately under fire. So, Drew's claim that he is the only one suspecting Roland is unfair.
But I don't think that going after Roland in a 2-scum scenario should be considered now.

So what should be considered?

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're town based on your reasonable catch-up, but I expect to see some proactivity from you with regards to who should be eliminated.

[Snow2697]

Has not formed a view on Gob's win conditions. This can be a reference to the mod's assessment of his gameplay vis-a-vis the substance of his game objectives (eg he should pretend townish as scum, but does the opposite; or should be pro-town as red, while his game is black and is directing attention). Or that his play just lead to his modkill, so he is essentially committing suicide, which is against his win conditions in any event.

[Solon]

What is noteworthy about Drew is that he seems to complain about people not following him in voting vs Roland without actually putting his case against Roland.
You can withhold your case vs an adversary for a while, you can probably request a couple of votes on a player to stimulate or provoke him/her, but you cannot expect that others will join you and lim him/her in the absence of clear arguments.

I somewhat agree, but this kind of passive commentary makes me uneasy.

[Solon]

Now I'm starting to think it actually is Snow/Roland after all which is why Roland freaked out over Drew linking them together.

[Snow2697]

I cannot be portrayed as Roland's teammate. I actually called him sus which put me immediately under fire. So, Drew's claim that he is the only one suspecting Roland is unfair.
But I don't think that going after Roland in a 2-scum scenario should be considered now.

So what should be considered?

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're town based on your reasonable catch-up, but I expect to see some proactivity from you with regards to who should be eliminated.

I have given two options. Not Mafia or Kay. Unclear player and scummy player based on my read.

Sus Roland should not be an option, since the player who pushes him (DD) does not put a case against Roland. Later we'll have to decide how serious has been DD's play vs Roland.

Does not seem like Kay's lime is supported though.

If so, the real options for the town are Not Mafia or me.

[Snow2697]

Now I'm starting to think it actually is Snow/Roland after all which is why Roland freaked out over Drew linking them together.

My scum team with Roland makes no sense.

Also in saying so you actually take Drew's side in his conflict with Roland. I think you cannot resolve their conflict until Drew puts his case vs Roland.

[KayJayQueue]

Btw, how it is that Gob can be kicked from the game for not playing to his win condition but Not Mafia isn't?

Could it be because Gob is town and Not_Mafia is scum? Being anti-town therefore wouldn't be against his win con.

I think the bigger issue with Gob was the threatening to throw the game. Doesn’t that go against any win conditions no matter what side? At least that’s how I read it.

[Solon]

Btw, how it is that Gob can be kicked from the game for not playing to his win condition but Not Mafia isn't?

Could it be because Gob is town and Not_Mafia is scum? Being anti-town therefore wouldn't be against his win con.

I think the bigger issue with Gob was the threatening to throw the game. Doesn’t that go against any win conditions no matter what side? At least that’s how I read it.

Tell me how Not_Mafia is playing to his win condition as town.

As scum, there's always the potential motive of reverse psychology - '

scum wouldn't be so scummy'.

If not_mafia is town then he is literally throwing the game. The fact he hasn't been kicked, when Gob has, implies to me that the former is scum while the latter is town.