Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Ichirin Kumoi]

but i do agree with Ichirin on some level, hopefully wagons will start to stabilize a bit cause otherwise it's gonna be hard to analyse that

Yeah, that's part of it too, I don't know how particularly readable wagons that appear out of thin air and with several people voting for the sake of voting on them are.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Your posting sucks. Either alignment will jump on you because they can. Both players responses to you are rout and can be from either alignment since they’re more policies and prescriptions than fluid mind sets. The only fluidity was that people quickly jumped on you for one too many contentless posts.

[Eternity Larva]

@Ichirin please see my flawless and sheep-worthy case on Daiyousei below

Koishi Komeiji occupies the same spot in my mind as Daiyousei btw

one-off questions and comments that don't seem to lead anywhere

not atrocious this early on but worthy of wagoning for sure!

PEDIT: speak of the devil!

yes this was directed towards Koishi but it can be inferred that i feel similarly about Daiyousei

[Yuuka Kazami]

While i sort of understand what the werewolf is getting at, mostly i just see an obstructionist for the sake of obstruction and with neutrality wrapped in the veneer of content in terms of their read of ichirin. That’s what it is on its face and I don’t have much motivation to look beyond that.

They said explanation is forthcoming.
But my patience with that when regular play will do just fine, is finite.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

Your posting sucks. Either alignment will jump on you because they can. Both players responses to you are rout and can be from either alignment since they’re more policies and prescriptions than fluid mind sets. The only fluidity was that people quickly jumped on you for one too many contentless posts.

While i sort of understand what the werewolf is getting at, mostly i just see an obstructionist for the sake of obstruction and with neutrality wrapped in the veneer of content in terms of their read of ichirin. That’s what it is on its face and I don’t have much motivation to look beyond that.

They said explanation is forthcoming.
But my patience with that when regular play will do just fine, is finite.

You just blow in from Needlessly Mean Town?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’ll take a town read, sure.

[Yuuka Kazami]

That second post is about kagerou, more than it’s about you.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

@Ichirin please see my flawless and sheep-worthy case on Daiyousei below

Koishi Komeiji occupies the same spot in my mind as Daiyousei btw

one-off questions and comments that don't seem to lead anywhere

not atrocious this early on but worthy of wagoning for sure!

PEDIT: speak of the devil!

yes this was directed towards Koishi but it can be inferred that i feel similarly about Daiyousei

On me for not really seeing this but still a rather strong read all things considered.

[Clownpiece]

I don't particularly like that town just randomly

Why assume we are town doing that, maybe you just found the entire scum team

Marisa/Clownpiece/Yuuka nakedvoter scumteam would be funny but I think it's just the mind virus completely rewiring people's perceptions of a weird out-of-left-field vote.

Marisa is not one of the people who voted you.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

I don't particularly like that town just randomly

Why assume we are town doing that, maybe you just found the entire scum team

Marisa/Clownpiece/Yuuka nakedvoter scumteam would be funny but I think it's just the mind virus completely rewiring people's perceptions of a weird out-of-left-field vote.

Marisa is not one of the people who voted you.

Speaking in general.

[Eternity Larva]

i did not like Dai's first couple posts on a gut level, which i initially wrote off because they leaned into the roleplay that i barely understood

as the game progressed, Dai was sitting in the sweet spot of active lurker that i'd expect scum to occupy, hence my vote

the amount of words i devoted to this read has already eclipsed the level of confidence i have in it, it's really not that deep

PEDIT: oh the "just scum" is what bothers you

i like to be overdramatic to apply pressure sometimes

i can confirm that i am not locked into a Dai scum read based on her six posts

[Clownpiece]

...

why would you be speaking in general, instead of specifically about the 3 people who all naked voted you?

[Ichirin Kumoi]

...

why would you be speaking in general, instead of specifically about the 3 people who all naked voted you?

Yuuka was first and moreover did not vote until voting me, whereas Koishi was on Daiyousei and you hopped on out of left field. I don't really believe I'm getting naked voted by the entire team and I'm not particularly interest in the semantics of my specified hypothetical shitpost team.

[Clownpiece]

I am just confused on why you don't seem interested in determining the alignment of the people who voted you.

You started by saying it was town voting you, I asked why we could not be scum voting you (the full scum team part was a joke, but that was the idea), and you responded by not even knowing who was voting you.

I would expect some level of suspicion from someone who thinks that they are currently in serious danger of being miselimed (which I already felt was an exaggerated response to 3 votes), but you actually seem completely uninterested in your voters for some reason.

[Clownpiece]

It kind of comes across like you already knows that all three of us are town, so your goal is not to sort us, and your actual goal in this situation is just to change our mind by finding something to talk about/focus on (in this case Eternity Larva) to "show" that you are solving.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

I am just confused on why you don't seem interested in determining the alignment of the people who voted you.

You started by saying it was town voting you, I asked why we could not be scum voting you (the full scum team part was a joke, but that was the idea), and you responded by not even knowing who was voting you.

I would expect some level of suspicion from someone who thinks that they are currently in serious danger of being miselimed (which I already felt was an exaggerated response to 3 votes), but you actually seem completely uninterested in your voters for some reason.

Koishi's vote is playstyle stuff that isn't really AI to me and Yuuka is an ass, but a townish ass. It'd be a bit narrow-minded to immediately react to my voters and interrogate them which is why I wanted to get Larva to talk about Daiyousei and I mentioned Marisa because I feel she's particularly oddball with her votes/reads. Though now that my business is done and that you mention it, why'd you even hop on in the first place?

[Ichirin Kumoi]

It kind of comes across like you already knows that all three of us are town, so your goal is not to sort us, and your actual goal in this situation is just to change our mind by finding something to talk about/focus on (in this case Eternity Larva) to "show" that you are solving.

I literally got assaulted by 3 votes mid-catchup, so.

[Clownpiece]

Though now that my business is done and that you mention it, why'd you even hop on in the first place?

That question was already asked and answered

[Ichirin Kumoi]

Though now that my business is done and that you mention it, why'd you even hop on in the first place?

That question was already asked and answered

Man I am really not in the headspace for this right now am I.

[Sanae Kochiya]

VOTE: Daiyousei this is probably just scum tho

and i don't think it's because i'm not vibing with the roleplay (i don't want to discourage the roleplay btw, do what is fun for you! i am just bitter about not knowing the flavor and being left out of the joke )

VOTE: Daiyousei

UwU

VOTE: Daiyousei

Do not like any of these votes.

elaborate?

Larva has not given any particularly reason for why Daiyousei is "just scum", and she's my main concern because I'm pretty sure Marisa is just going scattergun mode with her reads and voting whoever's picking up steam of them (albeit this is still possibly maf opportunism), and Koishi's already explained her vote. Calling Dai "just scum" this early and STICKING to that just seems oddly committal for something I literally cannot fathom a proper reason why for at the moment.

I don't really like this post, want a vote count but I can probably vote here

Koishi is probably town.

I think Aya Shameimaru can be scum too

[Eternity Larva]

eh i'm not really feeling the Ichirin votes

the below post reads as a genuine town reaction to the sudden burst of votes

Oh. I look away for a few minutes and by the time I post again there's 3 people on me.

and while i can see where Ichirin could be perceived as nitpicking at my unexplained read i don't think it was such an outrageous thing to point out. the amount of criticism sie's receiving for it feels incongruent and unwarranted

Koishi's questions from the last page (266 and 270) are contributing to the pile on and egging on the criticism without looking like a genuine attempt to ascertain Ichirin's alignment

and Yuuka specifically felt like she entered into that engagement deliberately looking for a fight by calling Ichrin's posts bad multiple times for reasons i cannot gather from reading the last couple pages

it feels icky in multiple places

VOTE: Koishi Komeiji

[Eternity Larva]

i should go back and remember why i was townreading Yuuka outside the initial miller claim

[Yuuka Kazami]

It kind of comes across like you already knows that all three of us are town, so your goal is not to sort us, and your actual goal in this situation is just to change our mind by finding something to talk about/focus on (in this case Eternity Larva) to "show" that you are solving.

I literally got assaulted by 3 votes mid-catchup, so.

Assaulted?

[Ichirin Kumoi]

It kind of comes across like you already knows that all three of us are town, so your goal is not to sort us, and your actual goal in this situation is just to change our mind by finding something to talk about/focus on (in this case Eternity Larva) to "show" that you are solving.

I literally got assaulted by 3 votes mid-catchup, so.

Assaulted?

Assaulted.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Your inner narrative is a wondrous place.