Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Aristeia]

who is the best bet? im inclined to say it's kayjayqueue. more than any other slot, i can't conceive of a world where she's scum.

I don't really believe Kay's claim it feels really unlikely for there to be a informed townie who can on night two learn that a dead person is town, or maybe find out a live person is town

the swing in that role doesnt feel like it would pass review.

perhaps I just lack imagination ig

[Aristeia]

I'm fine with following your solve. I don't feel that strongly about it.


VOTE: gera

[Psyche]

i think that's not quite how informed works (i think it can be configured to always reveal a living slot)
but wiki suggests it's stronger than IC but weaker than one-shot cop
i tend to lean toward thinking IC is pretty strong already...

[Aristeia]

I'm not trying to get you to break the rules I'm trying to gauge how powerful your claimed role is and whether it can exist in this game.

You're allowed to paraphrase or relay moderator answers about your role as long as you do it in a way that doesn't prove that the moderator said something to you by like copying it word for word.

relaying simple yes or no answers doesn't apply because it's just yes or no and it doesn't actually prove anything.

Okay the answers I got were:
The player I find out info about is predetermined before the game starts.
1. Yes, that would be a possibility if that was my predetermined player.
2. Mod can’t give me the answer to this question.
3. No, because of how things are done during setup.

^

I asked her about it and she claimed that was how her role works.

[Aristeia]

I think it should be pretty clear I'm town because

IC
?? Vig
Odd Night Roleblocker
1-s gunsmith
1-s doctor
N2 Informed of ____ is town[which really is kind of like a second IC + more]

is two power roles too many at least.

[Political Clout]

I'm fine with hu tao too

VOTE: gera

[Political Clout]

I think I believe titus claim more than hu tao which I believe less than kjq.

[Political Clout]

although hu tao's claim is backed up by their switch of me from day 1 to day 2.

[Political Clout]

yeah i think that makes more sense so titus or kjq then.

[Political Clout]

I don't think I ever see aristeia flipping red in this setup.

[KayJayQueue]

The only thing I’m worried about is that I’ve trusted Hu this entire time, then she waited until everyone claimed to claim and now has drafted our “plan to win” and leaves out herself again. I’ve townread her from the beginning so it’s hard to think she’s just been masterfully lying this entire time. I know PC(from the info I received) and RN are definitely clear, and I also believe psyche is clear as vig, I can’t just be blind that there’s only 4 people left and 2 are bad. Of those 4, 3 are claiming non-vanilla roles. So there are 2 people lying. I’m not sure the usual setup for games in terms of how many roles, how many vanilla, etc. so I don’t know if Ari could also be lying or not either. I think today’s vote is pretty set and will probably be correct, but other than that, I’m just a little apprehensive about my past reads now that all these claims have happened.

[Aristeia]

UNVOTE:

we shouldnt put gera at e-1 until titus says whos shes roleblocking

[Aristeia]

like if gera is mafia and self-hammers and titus dies tonight we dont even know who the clear is

[Hu Tao]

worst case scenario:
gera flips town, and roleblock fails to prevent a kill on a confirmed or clear a slot, and a hypothetical vig shot hits town (let's say ari), leaving 2 scum remaining in 3 of:

Titus
Hu Tao
KayJayQueue

4v2, mylo.
town has 2/3 chance of guessing right.
town would be three of: me/rn/pc/???

then if town guesses right and scum get a kill,
3v1, mylo again
maybe a choice between hu tao and kayjayqueue
spooky

If it comes to that last scenario I'd be fine losing to Kay. That would be amazing play by her if she's scum here somehow

[Hu Tao]

i will ramble on and on if allowed. backbone coalition needs to kick in

VOTE: geraintm

Before we vote we should make sure everyone is on the same agreement on the plan

[Hu Tao]

who is the best bet? im inclined to say it's kayjayqueue. more than any other slot, i can't conceive of a world where she's scum.

I don't really believe Kay's claim it feels really unlikely for there to be a informed townie who can on night two learn that a dead person is town, or maybe find out a live person is town

the swing in that role doesnt feel like it would pass review.

perhaps I just lack imagination ig

Well. Without me and Kay, town would have no "investigation" results. Vig can be swingy in general and so can role blocker if they blocked be n1. So I don't think it's terrible. I don't see where gera fits though.

[Hu Tao]

who is the best bet? im inclined to say it's kayjayqueue. more than any other slot, i can't conceive of a world where she's scum.

I don't really believe Kay's claim it feels really unlikely for there to be a informed townie who can on night two learn that a dead person is town, or maybe find out a live person is town

the swing in that role doesnt feel like it would pass review.

perhaps I just lack imagination ig

I do believe because unless they know my role it just fits with mine. And i don't see scum role copping me after my day 1

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

we shouldnt put gera at e-1 until titus says whos shes roleblocking

I want to hear Hu's solving first. I'm not feeling well. Brain power work

[Psyche]

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

If we can break the game, I need a person to bounce from. My block might be clear if no kill.

[Datisi]

vote count 3.02

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2024-03-15 03:15:00).

yeet

geraintm [1]:

Political Clout

not voting [7]:

Titus, Hu Tao,

Random Nurse

, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Aristeia, Psyche

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[Aristeia]

I do believe because unless they know my role it just fits with mine. And i don't see scum role copping me after my day 1

how does a night two informed fit with a night one gunsmith

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:

we shouldnt put gera at e-1 until titus says whos shes roleblocking

I want to hear Hu's solving first. I'm not feeling well. Brain power work

I already posted it. Would you block Kay

[Hu Tao]

I do believe because unless they know my role it just fits with mine. And i don't see scum role copping me after my day 1

how does a night two informed fit with a night one gunsmith

The informed Basically gives a result. Otherwise without us there is no investigate roles

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

we shouldnt put gera at e-1 until titus says whos shes roleblocking

I want to hear Hu's solving first. I'm not feeling well. Brain power work

I already posted it. Would you block Kay

Link me please. Brain dead but not opposed. Just need to check.