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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:11 pm

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Ok solon and Drew argue about snow - some good paranoi from Solon here , I hate to say it but I mostly agree with Drew's interpretations here. Still think Solon is town though.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:11 pm

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Hmm maybe Drew is town here as well I can see the cogs turning.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:13 pm

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OK I need to speed up I'm doing this catch up at a crawl - If anyone has questions for me about anything that happened let me know, for now I'll try to focus on things I think are relevant.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:16 pm

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The Roland replace out is so freaking weird until I see he actually has very few posts - everyone who's been around the block a bit has had some vicious arguments and been accused heavily but maybe as a newbie it felt overwhelming - think it's a townie replace out though - born from frustration at being accused when innocent rather than folding to pressure.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:19 pm

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In post 957, KayJayQueue wrote:
In post 956, RolandOfGilead wrote: If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do
Dang, I always miss all the fun.
Are big arguments fun when it's two people you town read? Frustrating for me. It's fun if you're scum - Kay continues to give me bad vibes.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:21 pm

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In post 983, RolandOfGilead wrote: If Not Mafia flips town, I will be voting for myself tomorrow.

I've been outdueled by Drew at this point and I have no chance of clearing my name while I'm alive. You need to see my alignment to truly see this is a waste of time and effort. HE needs to see it, if he's actually town. There should only be 2 scum in this game and you can take 2 mis-eliminations. My flip certainly seems to be the most informative you could make tomorrow so I'm all in favor of it.

I just don't have that game under my belt here where I can show you that me being frustrated and getting emotional is something I do when I'm wrongly accused of guilt. I get it, you don't trust me and you rely on things like that, I understand.

I am just truly at a loss on how to get through to you. More than one of you is actually arguing that Snow is my teammate, despite me having pushed Snow to E-1 yesterday and leaving him there until someone ELSE had to unvote, while we were all aware that Not Mafia clearly intended to swoop in at any given moment and hammer. I have said all day long how I support eliminating both Snow and Not Mafia and you seriously think I chose my teammate, casting a vote that legitimately could have gotten him killed, when I could have otherwise just voted Not Mafia and avoided the risk. I tried to explain how silly this theory is to you guys and you still don't see it, so I fucking give up, I am out of arguments if something THAT clear still doesn't matter to you.

At this point you just want cold, hard facts, so I'll deliver that to you with my dead body.
Paranoia is good, this attitude is so anti-town though holy shit.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:24 pm

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Gif says as much a few posts later.
Enter Malachai.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:33 pm

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Malachai replaces in and has some back and forth with Jackson - I actually think Malachai brings up some good points here. Why was I town reading that slot again? It was mostly based on trolly tone and the replace out which I really shouldn't read anything into.
In post 1082, JacksonVirgo wrote: Roland as dismissing my skill at the game, and you're scum-reading Gob's behaviour simply for having seperate reads from you. That's the extent that I understand both your current read on Gob and Roland's behaviour saying I had no grasp on the game.
I actually said you had no grasp on the game - although I think I added additional context, interesting that you mixed us up here - does town forget who insulted them? Hmmm
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:36 pm

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I swear it was Roland. Huh, whoops
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:36 pm

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I mean I was insulted, I’d remember if I was going to remember. It’s nai
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:37 pm

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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:39 pm

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In post 1155, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1152, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 1150, Not_Mafia wrote: I'll provide explanations if I think it's appropriate
Why did DownBad drop that low
Have been very underwhelmed by LaToya, looking back I think I was just reading gob's naturally obstinate nature as town
Hmm, I might be having a stroke because I agree with something NM said?
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:50 pm

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OK in summary.
Malachai/Solon: almost definitely town.
Drew- prob town: I've turned around on Drew, but it might just be that I like the way he thinks and posts - meh.
GIF/Kay/Jackson - potential scum: a few things off here I'll explain my thoughts if anyone wants to know.

NM - Null, our styles don't mesh at all - slots impossible to read, I understand the wagon to an extent but I think we can do better.

Snow - scum, slot was already scummy for RN being inactive, and for the few posts they made - also admits to being less active as scum. Snow's contributions are mostly just commenting on styles and talking about elims that may "benefit" town rather than actively hunting for scum.

@Snow, sorry if I missed it but can you explain your Kay case?

In short I still wanna vote snow and hope everyone can get on board.

If I need to explain any specific read please ask - I've expanded my scum pool a little mostly because my uncertainty about everything has increased.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:56 pm

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In post 1262, FancyPants wrote: OK in summary.
Malachai/Solon: almost definitely town.
Drew- prob town: I've turned around on Drew, but it might just be that I like the way he thinks and posts - meh.
GIF/Kay/Jackson - potential scum: a few things off here I'll explain my thoughts if anyone wants to know.

NM - Null, our styles don't mesh at all - slots impossible to read, I understand the wagon to an extent but I think we can do better.

Snow - scum, slot was already scummy for RN being inactive, and for the few posts they made - also admits to being less active as scum. Snow's contributions are mostly just commenting on styles and talking about elims that may "benefit" town rather than actively hunting for scum.

@Snow, sorry if I missed it but can you explain your Kay case?

In short I still wanna vote snow and hope everyone can get on board.

If I need to explain any specific read please ask - I've expanded my scum pool a little mostly because my uncertainty about everything has increased.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:57 pm

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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:57 pm

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In post 1263, KayJayQueue wrote:
In post 1262, FancyPants wrote: OK in summary.
Malachai/Solon: almost definitely town.
Drew- prob town: I've turned around on Drew, but it might just be that I like the way he thinks and posts - meh.
GIF/Kay/Jackson - potential scum: a few things off here I'll explain my thoughts if anyone wants to know.

NM - Null, our styles don't mesh at all - slots impossible to read, I understand the wagon to an extent but I think we can do better.

Snow - scum, slot was already scummy for RN being inactive, and for the few posts they made - also admits to being less active as scum. Snow's contributions are mostly just commenting on styles and talking about elims that may "benefit" town rather than actively hunting for scum.

@Snow, sorry if I missed it but can you explain your Kay case?

In short I still wanna vote snow and hope everyone can get on board.

If I need to explain any specific read please ask - I've expanded my scum pool a little mostly because my uncertainty about everything has increased.
I always want to hear why people think I’m a baddie!
I mean, maybe I'm scum who's making up bullshit, where is your paranoia Kay!
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:58 pm

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In post 1265, FancyPants wrote:
In post 1263, KayJayQueue wrote:
In post 1262, FancyPants wrote: OK in summary.
Malachai/Solon: almost definitely town.
Drew- prob town: I've turned around on Drew, but it might just be that I like the way he thinks and posts - meh.
GIF/Kay/Jackson - potential scum: a few things off here I'll explain my thoughts if anyone wants to know.

NM - Null, our styles don't mesh at all - slots impossible to read, I understand the wagon to an extent but I think we can do better.

Snow - scum, slot was already scummy for RN being inactive, and for the few posts they made - also admits to being less active as scum. Snow's contributions are mostly just commenting on styles and talking about elims that may "benefit" town rather than actively hunting for scum.

@Snow, sorry if I missed it but can you explain your Kay case?

In short I still wanna vote snow and hope everyone can get on board.

If I need to explain any specific read please ask - I've expanded my scum pool a little mostly because my uncertainty about everything has increased.
I always want to hear why people think I’m a baddie!
I mean, maybe I'm scum who's making up bullshit, where is your paranoia Kay!
I left it in my other pants. Damn it!
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:59 pm

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@Kay. in general my reasons for scum reading you haven't changed - no paranoia, no real scum reads or even things that ping you as scummy throughout the game, you've mostly just town reading everyone and your suspicions are based on process of elimination. Finally you never vote, and seem to enjoy large arguments even when you perceive them as town v town.

It's not a strong read but it's niggling me.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:04 am

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@Solon, when did this:
In post 897, Solon wrote: It would be unfortunate if we eliminate Snow and he flips town, as he is actually contributing meaningful content, whereas Not_Mafia will never do so, and if he ever makes it to melo then then game is lost anyway if he's town.

I also don't think Snow's catch-up is nearly as bad as is being made out. I think his response has been calm and balanced, not in the least survivalistic, and I think he made some decent points. It's never easy catching-up in a game, especially when everyone already thinks you're scum.

Change to this?:
In post 1205, Solon wrote: Snow is my bigger scumread, but I refuse to play further with Not_Mafia, so that's unfortunately where I stand.

It may well be that they are both scum, in which case it's an easy game.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:08 am

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Around about here:
In post 976, Solon wrote: Right now I'm in a strange position.

I think Snow has a higher chance of flipping scum, but I feel as though we need rid of the Not_Mafia slot for the sake of the game.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:11 am

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In post 1269, Solon wrote: Around about here:
In post 976, Solon wrote: Right now I'm in a strange position.

I think Snow has a higher chance of flipping scum, but I feel as though we need rid of the Not_Mafia slot for the sake of the game.
Ok but it felt like you were town reading snow after his entrance - have I just misinterpreted that?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:14 am

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In post 1267, FancyPants wrote: Finally you never vote, and seem to enjoy large arguments even when you perceive them as town v town.

It's not a strong read but it's niggling me.

Yeah, you’re right. I never vote. What an obvious tell.

In post 8, KayJayQueue wrote: New game, who dis?

VOTE: Doctor Drew
In post 158, KayJayQueue wrote: Have we heard from all but 2 at this point?

VOTE: Not_Mafia
In post 198, KayJayQueue wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse
In post 269, KayJayQueue wrote:
In post 261, gob wrote: If you guys dont listen to me though, ill do what i must to make myself heard. Even if that means throwing this game.
We could always just skip the part where you throw the game and just vote your ass day 1. Wouldn’t the end result be the same except you don’t have a chance to do more damage at night if you’re a town intent on making us lose? Screw your threats, either you’re scum causing chaos and we eliminate you, or you’re town that is (purposely, loudly) detrimental to us winning. Either way, you not being here sounds like a win/win to me.

VOTE: gob
In post 433, KayJayQueue wrote: VOTE: Not_Mafia
Hmm.

Oh you mean I haven’t voted for the last 3 days since I gave a detailed reason for unvoting?
In post 892, KayJayQueue wrote: I think I prefer Snow today but I’m happy with either snow or N_M. I just feel like N_M was more trolling than being scummy (yet is at the bottom of my list because everyone else feels better to me) whereas RN was null and then got replaced and snow’s contribution is just settling off red flags all over for me. I don’t know which one it is but I’m leaning snow over N_M.

Can we just hear from everyone once about their preference? I know we’ve heard from most players. I wonder Drew’s opinion on who to vote today? Anyone else who has more to say after snow’s analysis?

UNVOTE:
How dare I have a job where I have to travel on weekends and didn’t want to make an uninformed vote!
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:22 am

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I'm also busy on weekends so no shade there.

However all those votes you made were for RVS, policy or inactivity - so it doesn't show me you are identifying scummy behaviour real or imagined.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:24 am

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In post 1272, FancyPants wrote: I'm also busy on weekends so no shade there.

However all those votes you made were for RVS, policy or inactivity - so it doesn't show me you are identifying scummy behaviour real or imagined.
That’s been where the general focus has been in general
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Policy, inactivity etc
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