Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Political Clout]

so...
my math says scum not shooting is just the town getting to vote on an extra vig shot -- that they get to vote on instead of trusting me to aim
why is last night's outcome such a disaster scenario?

so you have a shot?

[Hu Tao]

If you have a shot then it's auto win and I don't get why we are stalling here

[Psyche]

unless scum have a way to survive it..?

[Psyche]

ah but that'd test a fakeclaim

[Psyche]

no i guess scum could have an ability that blocks it even if it's not aimed at them

[Hu Tao]

no i guess scum could have an ability that blocks it even if it's not aimed at them

Um.. yes... it's called mafia doctor. The one that's dead now.

[Hu Tao]

If you seriously have a vigilante shot it's literally auto win. Why are we stalling here

[Psyche]

you can't imagine any other ability but mafia doctor that would disrupt a vig shot..?

[Hu Tao]

We can eliminate Kay, vig Ari and if game is still going we vote me. It's pretty clear. Only reason we Elim Kay in this scenario on the 1% chance she's scum with Traitor PC

[Hu Tao]

you can't imagine any other ability but mafia doctor that would disrupt a vig shot..?

Highly doubt scum has a role blocker here based on my role.

[Hu Tao]

It makes no sense for scum to have a mafia doctor and a role blocker for only big.

[Hu Tao]

Vig*

[Hu Tao]

Also mafia doctor implies there a gunsmith in this game. Which is also for my role to give me a potential fake clear.

[Hu Tao]

That's why I think all our role make sense together

[Psyche]

sure but you would have had that in mind while coming up with your fakeclaim

[Hu Tao]

Oscar worthy performance by me if I did all that just to set up a terrible situation for myself

[Hu Tao]

There is no reason for me to repeatedly stop Dann from trying to eliminate PC day 2. Especially when a few people wanted to eliminate PC

[Psyche]

I dunno how to say this.
I keep getting into these situations where you say something is the case as if it's certain when in fact it's quite possible that it's not the case.
These make me want to scumread you, or at least substantially doubt what you're saying.
It might be helpful -- for persuading me of things -- if you acknowledge these edge cases when you post your claims, even if you think they are barely worth thinking about.
If it turns out that these edge cases are not even occurring to you, well that'll help me sort you too.

[Psyche]

I'm of the mindset of trying to disconfirm the scenario where you really are pulling off an "oscar worthy performance". You are a really skilled player, so that scenario has to be weighed somewhat seriously.

[Hu Tao]

I'm flattered. But there is a difference between doing good scum play to set your team up to win and doing things that would be terrible as scum to do to put yourself in a terrible situation

[Psyche]

yeah! that seems to be the way to clear you. find the state transition that a skilled player wouldn't make

[Psyche]

...that's probably in D2

[Psyche]

im gonna say i don't have a shot, and did aim at titus

[Hu Tao]

Can you just tell me if you actually have a shot or not. Because it's literally auto win if you do. Scum shot Dann because they thought he was vigilante because of Titus' claim. So they were worried about the vigilante more than the role blocker even with a mafia doctor.

[Hu Tao]

Sad