Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[KayJayQueue]

Kay where did you go?

I was up all night last night because my sleep schedule is off since coming home from work and I had to take a family member to the airport 4 hours ago. I just needed to get a couple hours sleep in. I wake up to like 4 more pages lol I’m here now and I got my sleep.

gotcha anything else?

What do you mean?

[Political Clout]

Kay where did you go?

I was up all night last night because my sleep schedule is off since coming home from work and I had to take a family member to the airport 4 hours ago. I just needed to get a couple hours sleep in. I wake up to like 4 more pages lol I’m here now and I got my sleep.

gotcha anything else?

What do you mean?

why should I townread you over aristeia?

[Aristeia]

i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.

i never self voted on any other day pls dont lie

[Psyche]

another credit to your claim though is that you were definitely teed up to claim you had gunsmithed gera there...
wouldn't have even been in danger if he then flipped by accident

yeah this seems like decent reasoning too. even if hutao had flipped before gera, gera would be under no more suspicion than he weren't involved in the claim.
scumtao saying she'd targetted and cleared gera would have only held positive equity and possibly even won the game by forcing a sequence of lims over the remaining unconfirmed
there's no way scumtao doesn't notice this possibility if she's already considering a gunsmith claim
or at least bring it up at some point today/yesterday

[Psyche]

i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.

i never self voted on any other day pls dont lie

i wash my hands of this

[Political Clout]

i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.

i never self voted on any other day pls dont lie

you did self vote twice in this game iirc I don't think it matters that much tbh.

[KayJayQueue]

i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.

i never self voted on any other day pls dont lie

VOTE: Ari

[Psyche]

VOTE: Ari

[Aristeia]

you dont even understand what 2817 means in the context of the game.

[Psyche]

again another distraction. we gotta focusss or just move on to next day

[Aristeia]

oh i guess i did self vote at some point i forgot thanks for reminding me

[Political Clout]

again another distraction. we gotta focusss or just move on to next day

why is kay town? since apparently they're here but don't want to answer my question.

[KayJayQueue]

again another distraction. we gotta focusss or just move on to next day

why is kay town? since apparently they're here but don't want to answer my question.

I’m working on it, I was finding a couple posts.

[Psyche]

again another distraction. we gotta focusss or just move on to next day

why is kay town? since apparently they're here but don't want to answer my question.

i simply can't find a scummy post. and she's always been performing trying to sort. voting/read trajectories seem consistent too. just a solid performance.

[Aristeia]

kay is town because psyche talked to themselves and decided kay is consensus townread after polling themselves.

[Political Clout]

again another distraction. we gotta focusss or just move on to next day

why is kay town? since apparently they're here but don't want to answer my question.

i simply can't find a scummy post. and she's always been performing trying to sort. voting/read trajectories seem consistent too. just a solid performance.

can you show me this?

[Psyche]

i dont know how! id just be quoting posts where she answers questions and describes reads. im tiredddddd, may try to do a deeper dive later.
i certainly haven't found anything near-confirming like i have for hutao

[KayJayQueue]

We made one miselim and a VT got killed. Really not a terrible situation

Not a good situation either, particularly when 2 more (1 mislim + 1 nk) will get added soon. The only world where its beneficial to you is when youre scum.

If this is you claiming you’d be a mislim, do you have anyone you’d rather see pushed with more evidence than just Hu jumping on a wagon and then self-voting? (you’d have to vote half the players if that’s your stance) Is there literally anything that’s happened after post 183 that you can offer to support this Hu vote or give a different option? If not, I’m voting you.

NAS - what is your opinion on Aristeia?

So here I ask about other reads NAS has and why his read on Hu is so rock solid when other players also did what he claimed informed his scum read on Hu. The second post was not too long after and I asked for his opinion Ari, (I didn’t explain why because she was the other alive player that self-voted and wanted to see if he also felt that way about her) but I never got a response. Why wouldn’t he also be scum-reading Ari, or at least have an opinion on her?

This has been in the back of my mind since it happened but I didn’t know if it was strong enough reasoning or not. At this point if the question is between me or Ari, I guess I’m going to bring up these smaller instances.

[KayJayQueue]

It’s also weird that Ari seems to always be contributing any and all scum actions that don’t make sense if I were scum to “well she’s new, she doesn’t know how to play” and therefore gives her a reason to push me as scum when I honestly don’t see another solid explanation from her. It would also mean she’d have to believe it was me 100% because according to this theory, it can’t be Hu because if it was, scum wouldn’t make the same decisions. Yet she leaves open the possibility that it might not be me. So if it’s not me, in her opinion, what explains all these “new player made these decisions” reads if scum is the experienced player, Hu?

It’s hard for me to argue against someone’s reasoning that since I’m new, I don’t know how to play correctly, because I have made a few mistakes, such as the hammer thing.

[Aristeia]

from my point of view it can only be you or hu

i think it is more likely to be you.

i don't think its impossible to be hu

[Hu Tao]

another credit to your claim though is that you were definitely teed up to claim you had gunsmithed gera there...
wouldn't have even been in danger if he then flipped by accident

Yeah. I was kind of figuring there could be a mafia doctor. I wanted to check someone I could see living for awhile so that's why I went PC. I hoped gera was vigged after NAS

[KayJayQueue]

from my point of view it can only be you or hu

i think it is more likely to be you.

i don't think its impossible to be hu

I know, we are all in the same boat since the only possibility is that it’s one of the three of us. So we will all have to eventually point the finger at the other two. Because no matter which of us is voted today, if the vote is wrong, the next day the remaining two inevitably will be pointing fingers at each other. I have no way of knowing which one of you it is for sure, but your reasoning only really makes sense if it’s me and I know it’s not me. Thats why it’s hard for me to believe you’re town right now.

[Hu Tao]

Kay where did you go?

I was up all night last night because my sleep schedule is off since coming home from work and I had to take a family member to the airport 4 hours ago. I just needed to get a couple hours sleep in. I wake up to like 4 more pages lol I’m here now and I got my sleep.

gotcha anything else?

What do you mean?

If you're town you need to give reasons as to why you're town. I can't be the one defending you which is basically what's happening here. I think you're town, but you need to show the others you are too

[Hu Tao]

i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.

i never self voted on any other day pls dont lie

VOTE: Ari

Oof

[Aristeia]

i forgot about that self vote because I was just sheeping RN