Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Aristeia]

if hutao is scum she definitely was planning the gist of her fakeclaim kind of early. ive gotta remember to do that next time im scum

If I was scum I'd have to bank on the fact that town didn't have a gunsmith. Which was likely with mafia doctor and vig.

everyone had already claimed by the time you claimed gunsmith

[Psyche]

ok my hutao read is still pretty strong, but im acknowledging that it can be wrong.
this is on the level of strength as my NAS read and gera read near the end of yesterday -- uncertain but confident enough to blur the line.

[Hu Tao]

Yes. I didn't need to claim it right away because I didn't want scum to know that I was PR to give them the false sense of security to claim a PR and I figured I'd be able to back up my pr softs pretty easily

yet when kay claims a PR you just claim yours fits in with hers

Yeah because once she said n2 I believed it since mine was n1. I actually assumed that there would be a n2 something. I thought it was vigilante at first since there was no vigilante kill n1

[Aristeia]

Yeah because once she said n2 I believed it since mine was n1. I actually assumed that there would be a n2 something. I thought it was vigilante at first since there was no vigilante kill n1

eyeroll

[Aristeia]

that's not how balancing a normal works

[Aristeia]

UNVOTE:

[Political Clout]

doesn't kjq seem a bit too informed or is that just me? like they were townreading dave when almost no one else was.

[Political Clout]

we should look at mod's other games to see if there is this sort of n1 n2 pattern in other games and also for gera's claim that he didn't know that role even existed.

[Psyche]

at least kay being scum would fulfill the rule of cool

[Aristeia]

we should look at mod's other games to see if there is this sort of n1 n2 pattern in other games and also for gera's claim that he didn't know that role even existed.

I'm p sure Datisi has never modded a mini normal with 5 TPRs [I don't count miller as a TPR]

[Psyche]

if hutao is scum she definitely was planning the gist of her fakeclaim kind of early. ive gotta remember to do that next time im scum

If I was scum I'd have to bank on the fact that town didn't have a gunsmith. Which was likely with mafia doctor and vig.

just seems wild to me that stuff like this can be asserted so confidently
either setup spec is a game breaking strategy or astrology

[Aristeia]

til i am an astrologist

[Political Clout]

we should look at mod's other games to see if there is this sort of n1 n2 pattern in other games and also for gera's claim that he didn't know that role even existed.

I'm p sure Datisi has never modded a mini normal with 5 TPRs [I don't count miller as a TPR]

I think that's what is throwing me off I thought we all would just launch kay today because of the no two lims at night. but now hu tao and psyche are saying kay is for sure town idk how that is. if it's a three way tie between hu-kay-and yourself. let me look at datisis other games.

[KayJayQueue]

doesn't kjq seem a bit too informed or is that just me? like they were townreading dave when almost no one else was.

I gave a detailed response about my opinion on Dave in 1143. Maybe no one else was townreading him at the time but I didn’t just pull that opinion out of my ass and not back it up.

[Aristeia]

I guess I just think its really obvious that too many TPRs got claimed and this game is solved if people just bothered to look at how game balance works instead of whatever they are currently doing but I guess I might be biased because I know I'm town so I should be less mean about it and just take up astrology instead.

[Psyche]

basically i screwed up by targetting titus last night by not fully understanding the extent to which commitment to my strategy is broken by scum choosing not to kill

ari's version where i say i will shoot titus but then don't had a higher EV

[Aristeia]

[Aristeia]

I am currently searching for a bluish green shirt

[Psyche]

ari:

i think hutao's claimed role is weaker than it looks given the vig/mafia doctor thing. we can imagine a scenario where gera survives to LYLO bc she targetted him N1 for example and then died. or a scenario where I am mislimmed after she targets me.

here swing seems a bigger questionmark than power but i wonder how you're parsing this dynamic

[KayJayQueue]

I am currently searching for a bluish green shirt

just type in this color for the rest of the day

[Aristeia]

here swing seems a bigger questionmark than power but i wonder how you're parsing this dynamic

I just don't believe Kay's role as claimed makes any sense because whether Kay's target is dead or alive is completely random as she has claimed and that seems like a very weird swing that is ???

I am extremely good at confbiasing myself on details like this and not being openminded about what could or can't be possible so I know I can be totally wrong about this.

[Political Clout]

viewtopic.php?t=88709 5 prs in this game? I'm not sure if I would count backups?

from the 6 mini's only that one had 5?

[Aristeia]

I am currently searching for a bluish green shirt

just type in this color for the rest of the day

thanks it's so pretty I luv it

[Aristeia]

viewtopic.php?t=88709 5 prs in this game? I'm not sure if I would count backups?

from the 6 mini's only that one had 5?

the backup vig in that setup is basically like a "miller" for the gunsmith but doesnt know they're a miller

[Hu Tao]

doesn't kjq seem a bit too informed or is that just me? like they were townreading dave when almost no one else was.

To be fair I was also townreading dave