Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Psyche]

hmmm what about no lim? i guess you'd avoid it today or tomorrow to avoid RN being the decider. RN won't force a no lim tomorrow, would probably follow PC if he's feeling uncertain.

[Psyche]

im really anchoring on that one NAS vote...

[Political Clout]

I'd rather vote kay today if they flip green and clear then it's hu tao. we don't objectively gain anything if we flip aristeia.

[Psyche]

turned idea in my head setup seems reasonably balanced even if both hutao and kay are PRs
with the exception that i dont like the possibility of misleading results in the gunsmith/mafdoctor scenario.
guess balancers are ok w that though -- at least in complexes

[Political Clout]

unless you think there are 5 prs then yeah I guess it's all just a matter of perspective :^)

[Psyche]

I'd rather vote kay today if they flip green and clear then it's hu tao. we don't objectively gain anything if we flip aristeia.

is this based on setup logic or

[Political Clout]

I'd rather vote kay today if they flip green and clear then it's hu tao. we don't objectively gain anything if we flip aristeia.

is this based on setup logic or

the mod only has one mini where there are 5 prs and two of them are backups the rest are 4.

[Psyche]

unless you think there are 5 prs then yeah I guess it's all just a matter of perspective :^)

im wondering if it can be rationalized in terms of the distribution of town power.
a single cop would have cleared around many slots by now as an IC/gunsmith/informed, right?
i guess distributing the town power adds power though -- more agents confirmed by their claims, more consistency in the number of results obtained...

[Political Clout]

unless you think there are 5 prs then yeah I guess it's all just a matter of perspective :^)

im wondering if it can be rationalized in terms of the distribution of town power.
a single cop would have cleared around many slots by now as an IC/gunsmith/informed, right?
i guess distributing the town power adds power though -- more agents confirmed by their claims, more consistency in the number of results obtained...

if gs outs they are also pseudo cleared with the clear they have. that's potentially 2 people clear. plus ic bp plus informed townie. idk.

[Psyche]

but okay then! that's enough reason to prefer kay under neutral conditions. but then im worried about hutao getting limmed. i do think she's very probably town. i guess i feel that about any of these slots if i think a lot about them, but i have relatively concrete reasons for TRing hutao. and i even have some concrete reasons for scumreading ari. the trajectory you're outlining is very dangerous in my head!

[Political Clout]

but okay then! that's enough reason to prefer kay under neutral conditions. but then im worried about hutao getting limmed. i do think she's very probably town. i guess i feel that about any of these slots if i think a lot about them, but i have relatively concrete reasons for TRing hutao. and i even have some concrete reasons for scumreading ari. the trajectory you're outlining is very dangerous in my head!

maybe if the ic wasn't bp. because scum have to wait until n3 to kill them.

[Psyche]

ok. i think your reasoning, if true, should just imply to me that game ends today despite my reservations about ari. i shouldn't think too much about D5 if i accept it.

now, how confident are you that hutao and kay can't both be town in this setup? bet the game on it confident?

[Political Clout]

ok. i think your reasoning, if true, should just imply to me that game ends today despite my reservations about ari. i shouldn't think too much about D5 if i accept it.

now, how confident are you that hutao and kay can't both be town in this setup? bet the game on it confident?

If you ask me I would say 85% bet the game confident? yeah I'm a very chaotic impulsive player so maybe not the best person to ask.

[Random Nurse]

the mafia killed dannflor n2 probably because they thought he was a pr.

the only reason for them to think this is because he instantly believed titus's roleclaim - which suggests he knew he was blocked.

so for that to be true; titus has to be a roleblocker of some kind

if titus is a mafia roleblocker and you say you're going to shoot her, she can just block you and shoot you.

if titus is a town roleblocker, she wont block you and your shot will go through.

so if you shoot at titus the only world where she dies is if she is town.

Who knew he was blocked? Titus or Dannflor?

[Psyche]

ok. i think your reasoning, if true, should just imply to me that game ends today despite my reservations about ari. i shouldn't think too much about D5 if i accept it.

now, how confident are you that hutao and kay can't both be town in this setup? bet the game on it confident?

If you ask me I would say 85% bet the game confident? yeah I'm a very chaotic impulsive player so maybe not the best person to ask.

finally someone after my own heart

[Psyche]

okay kay sry it's time

[Random Nurse]

ok. i think your reasoning, if true, should just imply to me that game ends today despite my reservations about ari. i shouldn't think too much about D5 if i accept it.

now, how confident are you that hutao and kay can't both be town in this setup? bet the game on it confident?

I'm about 90% confident they're not both Town.

[Political Clout]

okay kay sry it's time

wait you realize if kay flips green I'm going to think it's hu tao right?

[KayJayQueue]

okay kay sry it's time

Just please make the right choice tomorrow, I’m sorry I wasn’t more of a help. But at this point I feel like you have all my information and all of my opinions.

[Psyche]

amazing. so ari is the one the town agrees to let win the game. never wouldve seen it coming

don't think there's anything else to do then

[Political Clout]

amazing. so ari is the one the town agrees to let win the game. never wouldve seen it coming

don't think there's anything else to do then

lol we can marinate on it and then revisit after tonight. I'm going to reread the game. I'm not a huge fan of ari's naerys vote then implosion day 2 idk what to call it tbh.

[Psyche]

okay kay sry it's time

wait you realize if kay flips green I'm going to think it's hu tao right?

my hope is that your 1v1 read and my hutao townread means the game ends today
out of my hands the next, unless scum decide i look easier to deceive

[Political Clout]

okay kay sry it's time

wait you realize if kay flips green I'm going to think it's hu tao right?

my hope is that your 1v1 read and my hutao townread means the game ends today
out of my hands the next, unless scum decide i look easier to deceive

fair enough.

[Random Nurse]

Do we have anything inconsistent on Ari currently?

As is her non-stop screaming "I AM TOWN!" is so convincing.

[Political Clout]

vote count 1.06

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-04 01:00:00).

yeet

Hu Tao [5]:

Naerys, Aristeia,

NotAScum

, Dannflor,

geraintm

Klick [2]:

davesaz, Political Clout

Naerys [2]:

Hu Tao, KayJayQueue

Psyche [1]:

Doctor Drew

not voting [3]:

Random Nurse

, Klick, Psyche

mod notes

meep

flavour

I think two scum on hu tao wagon means they're town