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[KayJayQueue]

Can anyone giving me a good reason to townread Snow?

[KayJayQueue]

I would range her between sus and locked town on my scale.

That’s pretty much the entire scale

But hey, if you’ll get off by back, I’ll take it lol

[Malachai]

I don't think Kay was able to put Drew at E-1 where, as you say, she called me and NM scums. This would have put her under Drew's attack,

which a player of her style should avoid.

The bolded / italicized portion. Explain what you mean by that, please?

[KayJayQueue]

I don't think Kay was able to put Drew at E-1 where, as you say, she called me and NM scums. This would have put her under Drew's attack,

which a player of her style should avoid.

The bolded / italicized portion. Explain what you mean by that, please?

Sounds like he thinks I’m so prone to avoiding conflict as my playstyle that even if I were scum, he thinks I’d rather eliminate my only teammate rather than get ire from Drew for putting him at E-1.

[Malachai]

I don't think Kay was able to put Drew at E-1 where, as you say, she called me and NM scums. This would have put her under Drew's attack,

which a player of her style should avoid.

The bolded / italicized portion. Explain what you mean by that, please?

Sounds like he thinks I’m so prone to avoiding conflict as my playstyle that even if I were scum, he thinks I’d rather eliminate my only teammate rather than get ire from Drew for putting him at E-1.

Well, are you?

I mean I really don't think you are, but I'll let you answer that one yourself.

[KayJayQueue]

I don't think Kay was able to put Drew at E-1 where, as you say, she called me and NM scums. This would have put her under Drew's attack,

which a player of her style should avoid.

The bolded / italicized portion. Explain what you mean by that, please?

Sounds like he thinks I’m so prone to avoiding conflict as my playstyle that even if I were scum, he thinks I’d rather eliminate my only teammate rather than get ire from Drew for putting him at E-1.

Well, are you?

I mean I really don't think you are, but I'll let you answer that one yourself.

I definitely do avoid conflict and we can psychoanalyze me later, but if it came to a little conflict or actively losing myself the game, I think I’d choose conflict lol

[Malachai]

Can anyone giving me a good reason to townread Snow?

Not me. His attitude of refusing to see anyone else's point of view is very anti-town.

[KayJayQueue]

It’ll be really funny if all the shit I got for having so many town reads and reading all these “fights” as town vs town was actually spot on and my avoiding conflict was just me being right about who was town. We’ll keep that as “to be determined”.

[Doctor Drew]

I don't know why you think I am some uncontrollable beast ready to unleash hell on whoever puts me at E-1 lol.

[KayJayQueue]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do

Dang, I always miss all the fun.

Are big arguments fun when it's two people you town read? Frustrating for me. It's fun if you're scum - Kay continues to give me bad vibes.

Oh I didn’t even see this response. I think you misinterpreted my comment there. It was an immature joke about “if you’re going to ride my ass”, and I joked that I missed the fun, the fun being ass riding, not the context of the post in question. I was just trying to lighten the mood, as usual. Sorry that none of my jokes land, will I stop trying? No, not at all.

[Doctor Drew]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do

Dang, I always miss all the fun.

Are big arguments fun when it's two people you town read? Frustrating for me. It's fun if you're scum - Kay continues to give me bad vibes.

Oh I didn’t even see this response. I think you misinterpreted my comment there. It was an immature joke about “if you’re going to ride my ass”, and I joked that I missed the fun, the fun being ass riding, not the context of the post in question. I was just trying to lighten the mood, as usual. Sorry that none of my jokes land, will I stop trying? No, not at all.

I enjoyed the joke

[KayJayQueue]

If you're going to ride my ass no matter what I do

Dang, I always miss all the fun.

Are big arguments fun when it's two people you town read? Frustrating for me. It's fun if you're scum - Kay continues to give me bad vibes.

Oh I didn’t even see this response. I think you misinterpreted my comment there. It was an immature joke about “if you’re going to ride my ass”, and I joked that I missed the fun, the fun being ass riding, not the context of the post in question. I was just trying to lighten the mood, as usual. Sorry that none of my jokes land, will I stop trying? No, not at all.

I enjoyed the joke

And they wonder why I didn’t want to vote you?! You’re my only fan!

[Malachai]

Oh no, Kay discovered Drew's onlyfans account....

[KayJayQueue]

Oh no, Kay discovered Drew's onlyfans account....

Or was it vice versa

[Malachai]

I think Snow has earned a stay of execution at the very least.

I'd much prefer a Not_Mafia elimination as that slot is never going to be readable for anyone, and will be a liability with the ever-present possiblity of a lolhammer whenever someone is one vote from the chop.

If this was a bus, this was an incredibly early and proactive bus. Ultimately I think it is TOO early to consider it a bus.

I should probably just listen to Jackson and stop considering his role actions as unlikely as I thought they might have been.

Meanwhile, Snow is playing incredibly anti-town right now, more than anyone else, so he gets my vote.

VOTE: Snow

[Malachai]

GIF/Kay/Jackson - potential scum: a few things off here I'll explain my thoughts if anyone wants to know.

I would like to hear your explanation for all three of these reads.

[KayJayQueue]

@Kay. in general my reasons for scum reading you haven't changed - no paranoia, no real scum reads or even things that ping you as scummy throughout the game, you've mostly just town reading everyone and your suspicions are based on process of elimination. Finally you never vote, and seem to enjoy large arguments even when you perceive them as town v town.

It's not a strong read but it's niggling me.

This was the explanation for me

[Malachai]

No longer want Snow, I dont think people are feeling Fancy rn

Are you still feeling Fancy? And I mean that in the literal sense, not in the "maybe I'll wear a suit" sense, just to be clear.

I’m not, I think he looks the best regarding VCA

I actually don't follow why you think an analysis of votes is so favorable for FancyPants. He voted for Random Nurse, IE before he was even replaced by Snow, and didn't cast another vote after that. Why does a dearth of votes look favorable, especially so favorable to change your read on him?

[JacksonVirgo]

No longer want Snow, I dont think people are feeling Fancy rn

Are you still feeling Fancy? And I mean that in the literal sense, not in the "maybe I'll wear a suit" sense, just to be clear.

I’m not, I think he looks the best regarding VCA

I actually don't follow why you think an analysis of votes is so favorable for FancyPants. He voted for Random Nurse, IE before he was even replaced by Snow, and didn't cast another vote after that. Why does a dearth of votes look favorable, especially so favorable to change your read on him?

He had his vote parked almost the entire time NM was under any form of heat. He didn’t move it, he didn’t commit to a bus and he didn’t actively try to protect NM. There’s no agenda behind his votes.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don’t think I need to explain further but if I do, let me know

[JacksonVirgo]

@Jackson

Shouldn't you also give more consideration to how rushed Solon was in this moment? He's talking about being on the bus, having little opportunity to really evaluate things properly. Everything he said also suggests he really didn't have a strong sense of who he wanted to use this ability on. To me that suggests that the rational decision for him would have been to leave it alone for the night. I think you're giving him some credit he doesn't deserve.

I mean can you think of a worse way for him to use this ability, to use it on someone who already had him as a "lock town"?

I know you shifted off of this somewhat but without trying to beat a dead horse, I still think you’re looking at it in a bad light. I don’t see the issue with targeting someone who town-reads you, the information typically does not stay just with the person targeted and it gets spread to every player eventually. It’s a trust-based innocent child.

[KayJayQueue]

No longer want Snow, I dont think people are feeling Fancy rn

Are you still feeling Fancy? And I mean that in the literal sense, not in the "maybe I'll wear a suit" sense, just to be clear.

I’m not, I think he looks the best regarding VCA

I actually don't follow why you think an analysis of votes is so favorable for FancyPants. He voted for Random Nurse, IE before he was even replaced by Snow, and didn't cast another vote after that. Why does a dearth of votes look favorable, especially so favorable to change your read on him?

He had his vote parked almost the entire time NM was under any form of heat. He didn’t move it, he didn’t commit to a bus and he didn’t actively try to protect NM. There’s no agenda behind his votes.

Did he need to actively do something to protect NM when his vote was on someone else? If anything, he jumped on a vote where originally he was 3rd on the bus. He didn’t remove his vote once Snow replaced in to give him the benefit of catching up like everyone else did. What if he was just waiting for either others to jump on Snow or for Drew to be E-1 to hammer him and save NM but never got the chance because I hammered NM instead? I think you’re giving him too much credit for doing nothing. Which I find funny since part of his reasoning for sussing me was that I wasn’t voting, when in fact I was. Wouldn’t he have to be sus for that too if it were a thing?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Snow

The informer must be dealt with(please someone get that reference)

I really trust Malachai, and this just makes sense

[JacksonVirgo]

No longer want Snow, I dont think people are feeling Fancy rn

Are you still feeling Fancy? And I mean that in the literal sense, not in the "maybe I'll wear a suit" sense, just to be clear.

I’m not, I think he looks the best regarding VCA

I actually don't follow why you think an analysis of votes is so favorable for FancyPants. He voted for Random Nurse, IE before he was even replaced by Snow, and didn't cast another vote after that. Why does a dearth of votes look favorable, especially so favorable to change your read on him?

He had his vote parked almost the entire time NM was under any form of heat. He didn’t move it, he didn’t commit to a bus and he didn’t actively try to protect NM. There’s no agenda behind his votes.

Did he need to actively do something to protect NM when his vote was on someone else? If anything, he jumped on a vote where originally he was 3rd on the bus. He didn’t remove his vote once Snow replaced in to give him the benefit of catching up like everyone else did. What if he was just waiting for either others to jump on Snow or for Drew to be E-1 to hammer him and save NM but never got the chance because I hammered NM instead? I think you’re giving him too much credit for doing nothing. Which I find funny since part of his reasoning for sussing me was that I wasn’t voting, when in fact I was. Wouldn’t he have to be sus for that too if it were a thing?

Unless he is a wolf that didn’t care an ounce about the outcome and just let whatever happens happen, they’re Town. If he wanted to keep them alive, he would have found a reason to pivot his vote onto another player as it was clear Snow was no longer happening. If he wanted to keep NM alive, he would have been more dynamic with his votes and if he wanted to bus NM he would have jumped on wagon to try and taste some of that sweet sweet credibility.

[JacksonVirgo]

He wasn’t in a spot where he could realistically stand aside and let things happen