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[davesaz]

What's making you choose PC, Dave?

PC's vote.

Why do you think it’s alignment indicative?

I don't. It's early enough in the game that I can be the old guy being grumpy about a self vote.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Hu Tao

why so defensive

Holy projection

[Hu Tao]

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: yessireee

Couldn't explain so they got defensive

[Political Clout]

fairly certain kayjayqueue is town less sure about random nurse and even less sure about dave...

[KayJayQueue]

1.3

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Political Clout (4) :

Political Clout / Davesaz / yessiree / Brian Skies

Brian Skies (2) :

KayJayQueue / PenguinPower

Random Nurse (2) :

BlackStar / Titus

Davesaz (1) :

SmileyDude1

BlackStar (1) :

Greeting

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (3) :

Hu Tao / StraightFlush / Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

vote history

PenguinPower :

yessiree (8) -> Brian Skies (29)

yessiree :

PenguinPower (9) -> Political Clout (82)

Davesaz :

greeting (13) -> Political Clout (76)

BlackStar :

Political Clout (18) -> Unvote(52) -> Random Nurse (90)

KayJayQueue :

Brian Skies (22) -> Titus (95)

Political Clout :

Politicial Clout (26)

SmileyDude1 :

Brian Skies (27) -> Unvote (91) -> Davesaz (92)

Greeting :

BlackStar (70)

Brian Skies :

Political Clout (83)

TItus :

Random Nurse (94)

mod notes

Brian Skies and Titus are V/LA until monday

You have me listed as voting for two different people here. My current vote is on Titus.

Thank you!

[Gypyx]

my bad, i apparently can't add up 4+2+2+1+1+1+3 to 14

[KayJayQueue]

my bad, i apparently can't add up 4+2+2+1+1+1+3 to 14

[yessiree]

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

[StraightFlush]

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

You say you want to get some wagons going, and you’re willing to attempt starting a wagon on someone because they won’t feed into that, but you also say you don’t expect current votes to mean much of anything since we’re still in the feel-it-out phase? Those two don’t really go together, why vote people and start wagons when they won’t mean anything yet

You also say in the same post that you won’t share what you’re looking for in a wagon/what your standards for voting are, which is scummy behavior in its own right imo

[yessiree]

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

You say you want to get some wagons going, and you’re willing to attempt starting a wagon on someone because they won’t feed into that, but you also say you don’t expect current votes to mean much of anything since we’re still in the feel-it-out phase? Those two don’t really go together, why vote people and start wagons when they won’t mean anything yet

You also say in the same post that you won’t share what you’re looking for in a wagon/what your standards for voting are, which is scummy behavior in its own right imo

I see, but you're confusing two things here. I said I'm not expecting votes to be well justified at this stage because I saw people were putting too much emphasis on this. That's not the same as having no reads at all which is Hu's case, and kinda why I was poking at her.

And I think it's pretty self-explanatory I'm obviously not telling y'all what I consider are scummy behaviours so you can do the towny thing instead the scummy thing

[Political Clout]

So, what, you're wanting some wagons to develop?

Sounds a bit suss to me.

Wagons are a valuable tool for hunting scum.

yessiree seems town to me.

+scum

[Greeting]

I’m happy writing

SmileyDude

off as town for the time being.

[Greeting]

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

You say you want to get some wagons going, and you’re willing to attempt starting a wagon on someone because they won’t feed into that, but you also say you don’t expect current votes to mean much of anything since we’re still in the feel-it-out phase? Those two don’t really go together, why vote people and start wagons when they won’t mean anything yet

You also say in the same post that you won’t share what you’re looking for in a wagon/what your standards for voting are, which is scummy behavior in its own right imo

I think

StraightFlush

can be sorted as town for this time too.

Fixed the formating of this post

[Greeting]

I think y'all are putting too much emphasis on the justification behind votes when most of them are just vibes and gut

the game is still in the figuring-out-each-others phase so I'm not really expecting any vote to be based on a solid foundation. That's not to say I'm not looking for anything though, as for what I'm looking for... I'm not telling you right now

I normally consider logical and well-justified arguments as a sign of effort to resolve the game. Surely this does not mean that mafia cannot fake them, but I am far less likely to look at someone who is evidently trying to get somewhere even in the fighting-out-each-other phase.

[Greeting]

What's making you choose PC, Dave?

PC's vote.

Why do you think it’s alignment indicative?

I don't. It's early enough in the game that I can be the old guy being grumpy about a self vote.

What do you think about self-voting in the game in general?

[StraightFlush]

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

You say you want to get some wagons going, and you’re willing to attempt starting a wagon on someone because they won’t feed into that, but you also say you don’t expect current votes to mean much of anything since we’re still in the feel-it-out phase? Those two don’t really go together, why vote people and start wagons when they won’t mean anything yet

You also say in the same post that you won’t share what you’re looking for in a wagon/what your standards for voting are, which is scummy behavior in its own right imo

I see, but you're confusing two things here. I said I'm not expecting votes to be well justified at this stage because I saw people were putting too much emphasis on this. That's not the same as having no reads at all which is Hu's case, and kinda why I was poking at her.

And I think it's pretty self-explanatory I'm obviously not telling y'all what I consider are scummy behaviours so you can do the towny thing instead the scummy thing

I've never gotten the appeal behind using votes to "poke" people personally. Let them get up to speed on their own. At the time Hu said they had no reads, I also happened to not have any reads yet

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once. I think all of us here are different enough in what we look for in order for that to be the case, so honesty is almost certainly the best policy. Personally, I think the towniest thing someone can do is defend a person who's currently unpopular with a well-reasoned argument

[davesaz]

What do you think about self-voting in the game in general?

Strongly dislike in general. There may be very limited cases where it actually furthers one's wincon, but for the most part it doesn't.

[davesaz]

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once.

Umm, are you saying you're mafia?

[StraightFlush]

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once.

Umm, are you saying you're mafia?

That's a bit of a stretch.

[KayJayQueue]

I might have a really busy day at work today but I’ll be checking in as often as I can!

[Gypyx]

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