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[BlackStar]

VOTE: brian skies

The hostility in your posts during that argument felt kind of unnatural and forced. And I agree with Smiley's point about it being weird that you thought PC was blatantly rolefishing and didn't call him out on it until after the argument started. It seems sus

[Political Clout]

VOTE: brian skies

The hostility in your posts during that argument felt kind of unnatural and forced. And I agree with Smiley's point about it being weird that you thought PC was blatantly rolefishing and didn't call him out on it until after the argument started. It seems sus

This is the way

[Gypyx]

Prodding PenguinPower

[PenguinPower]

Happy with my vote. Vanities need to do something.

Beat the mod prod.

[PenguinPower]

dammit

[Gypyx]

i have installed cameras in your house to prod you exactly when you were starting to type up that post

[SmileyDude1]

UNVOTE: Dave, as this doesn't seem to be going anywhere.


Tbh, my initial gut reaction to Brian's response to my inquiry in 214 was that it felt like something I could see town believing, but I haven't really looked at the interaction deeper yet to see if that scenario is more likely than the one where they made up their reasoning in post. I'm currently busy atm, but I plan on taking a deeper look at their progression again soon to see if it checks out. Will try to get that out sometime tomorrow at the very latest

[SmileyDude1]

Just on this page, I see a claim of hider but I don't necessarily believe it. Different roles can fake claim. For instance, a doctor may want to fake being a hider particularly if weak.

I'm so lost as to why someone claimed

Also i'm pretty sure no one's explicitly claimed yet btw, Yessiree has theorized that PC claimed Hider, though they haven't confirmed or denied that yet.

Spoiler: hider soft for prosperity

are you

hiding

something smileyman?

Eh, just engaging in some light-hearted banter tis all.

I think I believe you maybe tbd. but are you

hiding

something?

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are

hiding

a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

that was not a crumb tho, I think it was a straight up claim

[SmileyDude1]

Just on this page, I see a claim of hider but I don't necessarily believe it. Different roles can fake claim. For instance, a doctor may want to fake being a hider particularly if weak.

I'm so lost as to why someone claimed

Also i'm pretty sure no one's explicitly claimed yet btw, Yessiree has theorized that PC claimed Hider, though they haven't confirmed or denied that yet.

Spoiler: hider soft for prosperity

are you

hiding

something smileyman?

Eh, just engaging in some light-hearted banter tis all.

I think I believe you maybe tbd. but are you

hiding

something?

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are

hiding

a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

that was not a crumb tho, I think it was a straight up claim

also also for posterity sake, IMO PC probs shouldn't answer this right now.

Anyways see you later

[Hu Tao]

Just on this page, I see a claim of hider but I don't necessarily believe it. Different roles can fake claim. For instance, a doctor may want to fake being a hider particularly if weak.

I'm so lost as to why someone claimed

Also i'm pretty sure no one's explicitly claimed yet btw, Yessiree has theorized that PC claimed Hider, though they haven't confirmed or denied that yet.

Spoiler: hider soft for prosperity

are you

hiding

something smileyman?

Eh, just engaging in some light-hearted banter tis all.

I think I believe you maybe tbd. but are you

hiding

something?

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are

hiding

a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

that was not a crumb tho, I think it was a straight up claim

Okay I understand now

[PenguinPower]

*sigh* not voting is worse than sitting on a vanity vote

[davesaz]

The hider stuff was hiding in plain sight. I normally notice things like that (though did not this time), and I think the best way to handle it if you do see it is to

not mention it

. It's certainly not rolefishing to crumb something, and calling it that is kinda sus. All of this now merits a close re-read, which won't happen right now. I had a

really

unusual weekend and a much busier than normal work Monday. I'm only just caught up and quite out of touch.

[Titus]

I'm back off vla. I'm a little slow bc work catchup still.

[Titus]

I'm satisfied with my vote.

[Greeting]

Nice color coding, I should try doing stuff like that on this site

Interested to hear about those takes on Dave and Nurse, not what I was expecting.

Davesaz

's posts feel quite balanced and laid-back. His responses to my questions felt natural. For that reason I am giving him a townlean for Day 1.

I haven't been able to get an accurate read of

Random Nurse

.

[Greeting]

I think y'all are putting too much emphasis on the justification behind votes when most of them are just vibes and gut

the game is still in the figuring-out-each-others phase so I'm not really expecting any vote to be based on a solid foundation. That's not to say I'm not looking for anything though, as for what I'm looking for... I'm not telling you right now

I normally consider logical and well-justified arguments as a sign of effort to resolve the game. Surely this does not mean that mafia cannot fake them, but I am far less likely to look at someone who is evidently trying to get somewhere even in the fighting-out-each-other phase.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here...

My point was that well-justified votes, even if wrong, can be seen as a sign of a town mindset.

[Greeting]

I'm so lost as to why someone claimed

I'm confused as to why this is being discussed in the first place?

[Hu Tao]

I'm so lost as to why someone claimed

I'm confused as to why this is being discussed in the first place?

Same

[davesaz]

Hello everyone

also VOTE: Brian Skies

sorry, RNG told me you were scum. Don't make the rules

just tried it 2 more times and got Random Nurse and Blackstar.

Game is solved, you can thank me later.

Interesting, I think there is a subtext in these posts. I think PC may have thought the same thing.

[SmileyDude1]

Looked through Brian's ISO starting from their original Political Clout vote and came away with a negative outlook

Spoiler: Quote Wall

VOTE: Political Clout

They originally vote PC here

So, what, you're wanting some wagons to develop?

Sounds a bit suss to me.

Wagons are a valuable tool for hunting scum.

yessiree seems town to me.

This implies they voted there in order to create competing wagons for the benefit of scum hunting. I don't think their reasoning in 185 tracks with these initial postings. Like i get not pointing out the exact reasoning immediately if you think it should be apparent, but I feel like town in that position would've at least alluded to the fact that they were voting due to seeing scum-indicative behavior if that was the reasoning. The progression from this point doesn't feel natural to me.

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

This is in response to PC's 179 and I don't think this makes sense either when looked at from the perspective of scumreading PC from before. This response assumes a level of good faith that I don't think matches with the stance they took in 185. I would expect Brian to be more immediately dubious of PC here given the stance they took if that was there natural thought process.

I'm not really convinced your vote on me is anything other than OMGUS.

This is the last post they made before their 185 and I think it has the same issue as the above post. I feel like calling PC's vote an OMGUS there also kind of assumes a level of good faith that doesn't match here. Like OMGUS does have negative connotation, but it leaves room for "misguided townie making a bad vote" in such a way that it feels dissonant given the stated thought process indicates that Brian would've believed that PC is more likely scum than town at this point. I could see this post being an attempt at giving themselves an off-ramp with 185 coming afterwards when PC doesn't back down.

It kind of gets into heated back and forth between the two slots afterwards that I don't think I have enough expertise with emotions to accurately sort (not to mention I don't think i'd get much out of it anyways)

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

VOTE: Brian

It's post midnight where I am right now, will probs be back tomorrow

[KayJayQueue]

VC please

[KayJayQueue]

VC please

Nevermind

VOTE: Brian

[SmileyDude1]

E-2 btw

[Gypyx]

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[Gypyx]

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