Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[KayJayQueue]

I hope there’s a real reason for that vote and not just because I’m at work because that would make me kinda sad.

I would never vote for someone because they were at work

Well then in that case, go nuts

Well, not too nuts, I don’t wanna die!

I think Kay feels a little

too

casual about being pushed. Like the kind of casual that scum try to imitate when they don't want to seem bothered by a push

I kinda feel like Kay should be more curious about why I voted for her. She doesn't seem all that interested in sorting people that are pushing her

I was casual because you didn’t push me, you voted for me. There wasn’t any claim or reasoning so I had nothing to defend. If anything, you could’ve been random voting or seeing if there was any response to it from others looking for a vote to jump on.

[fireisredsir]

i think ming feels towny

[halfasleep]

I did not misread the posts. You clearly implied that my read was bad. Your entire argument was based on the fact that you think that the posts I pointed out were not deserving of a scumread. If you do not agree on that premise that my read was bad your entire argument literally falls apart. I am not deliberately ignoring what you are saying and you need to stop saying that, it’s not healthy for discussion and it’s annoying me.

ok, i see what you're saying in that you're right that i don't agree that that jupiter post was a reasonable basis for a scumread. i do still think there's a meaningful distinction between 'i don't believe this' and 'i don't believe that you believe this' and i do think that you get that. the world where you really took jupiter's joking as sincere 'appeal to emotion' is just too far from any reality i understand to imagine, but i recognise that is probably very frustrating if you are sincere. last sentence here is bad though. telling me that i

need

to change my line of argument just because it annoys you isn't ate? i thought you didn't like ate?

That said, I cannot attack your reasoning that my read seemed not genuine without first addressing the underlying assumption that the read was bad. Also, my post was most definitely not opportunist in any way. I was not taking advantage of the

opportunity that the AtE gave me

, I was simply trying to move discussion to a more productive place by making the best read I could come up with on the spot.

you're really gonna keep calling it that huh

The entire thing with making you post reads is to show how difficult is it to make a good early read and the importance of not accusing the first read that comes up of being scum trying to “steer” and rather as a chance to get out of RVS.

i wanna agree with this in principle but i don't think getting your thoughts out the gate first should exempt them from scrutiny. and honestly i still feel okay about my scumread on you rn. i probably did go too far in accusing of bad faith argument as much as i did so apologies if i'm wrong about that. i still don't feel like i'm wrong about your alignment though.

[Black]

i think ming feels towny

I wanted to say it feels like TvT but I was worried someone would call me scummy for it

And no folks this isn't scummy. I worry about how people read me when I'm town. Get over it

[JupiterXV]

I did not misread the posts. You clearly implied that my read was bad. Your entire argument was based on the fact that you think that the posts I pointed out were not deserving of a scumread. If you do not agree on that premise that my read was bad your entire argument literally falls apart. I am not deliberately ignoring what you are saying and you need to stop saying that, it’s not healthy for discussion and it’s annoying me.

ok, i see what you're saying in that you're right that i don't agree that that jupiter post was a reasonable basis for a scumread. i do still think there's a meaningful distinction between 'i don't believe this' and 'i don't believe that you believe this' and i do think that you get that. the world where you really took jupiter's joking as sincere 'appeal to emotion' is just too far from any reality i understand to imagine, but i recognise that is probably very frustrating if you are sincere. last sentence here is bad though. telling me that i

need

to change my line of argument just because it annoys you isn't ate? i thought you didn't like ate?

That said, I cannot attack your reasoning that my read seemed not genuine without first addressing the underlying assumption that the read was bad. Also, my post was most definitely not opportunist in any way. I was not taking advantage of the

opportunity that the AtE gave me

, I was simply trying to move discussion to a more productive place by making the best read I could come up with on the spot.

you're really gonna keep calling it that huh

The entire thing with making you post reads is to show how difficult is it to make a good early read and the importance of not accusing the first read that comes up of being scum trying to “steer” and rather as a chance to get out of RVS.

i wanna agree with this in principle but i don't think getting your thoughts out the gate first should exempt them from scrutiny. and honestly i still feel okay about my scumread on you rn. i probably did go too far in accusing of bad faith argument as much as i did so apologies if i'm wrong about that. i still don't feel like i'm wrong about your alignment though.

stop defending me it literally doesnt matter

[fireisredsir]

i think ming feels towny

I wanted to say it feels like TvT but I was worried someone would call me scummy for it

i think it probably is yeah

[JupiterXV]

ok you're not defending me wrong phrasing

[halfasleep]

yeah i was gonna say this disagreement isn't really about defending you at all. i was pretty neutral on you at that point the thread. (leaning towards a townread now fwiw because i broadly believe your reasons for scumreading me)

[awesomeming327]

To rephrase: I do believe in my read on Jupiter in the sense that there’s little else to base my reads on.

[awesomeming327]

Or rather, I did believe because there was little else

[halfasleep]

ok. i don't really have anything to add so unless you do that seems like a reasonable place to let the argument drop for now. i don't think i'm changing my read or my vote rn but i don't want to be tunnel-visioned on you all day.

[halfasleep]

VOTE: kayjayqueue

i think kay has done alignment indicative things

i feel like you could elaborate on this sometime

[awesomeming327]

Yeah I don’t have anything else to add that is of value.
UNVOTE: halfasleep

[Jake The Wolfie]

(still e-1)

[awesomeming327]

(still e-1)

What are you talking about?

[halfasleep]

(still e-1)

on who?

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: kayjayqueue

i think kay has done alignment indicative things

i feel like you could elaborate on this sometime

i think at a minimum 121, 127, 140 come out differently depending on her alignment

i don't really have a strong conclusion as to which direction since im not very familiar with the player but gut lean is scummy

[fireisredsir]

ive gone back and forth though, i think it's also possible that they're town indicative

idk lol

[halfasleep]

fair enough

[fireisredsir]

i think i changed my mind again

VOTE: jake the wolfie

[Jake The Wolfie]

(still e-1)

What are you talking about?

e-1 (More formally E-1) is an informal designation given to a player who requires only one more vote to be executed.

[Purplemango]

(still e-1)

What are you talking about?

e-1 (More formally E-1) is an informal designation given to a player who requires only one more vote to be executed.

But there is no one in this situation

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yeah I don’t have anything else to add that is of value.
UNVOTE: halfasleep

My eyes have deceived me and have made me into a fool. I thought this post was reconfirming their vote on Sleepy

[Purplemango]

Oh yea make sense

[Black]

VOTE: Jake the Wolfie