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[Political Clout]

ITT everyone is gaslighting me.

That’s called paranoia lol

Shows I'm town yeah? :good:

[Political Clout]

i mean, my comment was more stating that titus' reason wasn't valid so not sure why you're quoting me

That's not at all how it reads to anyone.

It read that way to me, and I might have made a similar post if I had been here in that moment.

A similar post or similar progression? Because after Mr penguin said that they voted me reinforcing my belief.

[Political Clout]

Then again, I feel icky about jumping on the

Brian Skies

wagon, because I could very well see their posts coming from a townie perspective and also I feel icky about most people who already are voting them.

Tell me more about brian like what posts are townie or what feels townie about them.

[Political Clout]

you can't convince me this counterwagon isn't a scum one. :good: I just need to find them.

[Random Nurse]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

[Political Clout]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

vote brian before you go

[Random Nurse]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

vote brian before you go

OK why?

Is it urgent?

[Political Clout]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

vote brian before you go

OK why?

Is it urgent?

urgent for me yeah. you can just iso us and decide though.

[Random Nurse]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

vote brian before you go

OK why?

Is it urgent?

urgent for me yeah. you can just iso us and decide though.

...

And why is it urgent for you?

We have at least 5 days.

[Political Clout]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

vote brian before you go

OK why?

Is it urgent?

urgent for me yeah. you can just iso us and decide though.

...

And why is it urgent for you?

We have at least 5 days.

hu tao already said they would hammer someone at -1 I already caught scum as far as I'm concerned.

[Hu Tao]

[PenguinPower]

Of course it's hard to prove that viewpoint when Penguin seems to have no intention of voting Brian regardless but I digress

absolutely not true, and my voting pattern has been quite transparent.

[PenguinPower]

why are you flailing about PC?

[PenguinPower]

That's not at all how it reads to

anyone

.

That's not how I read it at all. I thought Penguin was pointing that out as if to say "even if I share your sentiment, it's not relevant here bc it's not his first game back. Therefore I'm still willing to vote him if I think it's good"

It read that way to me, and I might have made a similar post if I had been here in that moment.

That’s how I read it at first but when he said I was wrong I realized that he meant it was Brian’s second game back so it wasn’t a good reason not to vote for him

mmmm

[Political Clout]

why are you flailing about PC?

no flailing just really excited. Probably playing to fast but that's okay. once brian flips I can start looking at my wagon for who else is scum.

[PenguinPower]

idk - your "excitement" started when you were getting wagoned with like 1/3 of your total posts coming in the past 12-14 hours

and far too many trying to tell me what i meant to say tbh

[Political Clout]

idk - your "excitement" started when you were getting wagoned with like 1/3 of your total posts coming in the past 12-14 hours

and far too many trying to tell me what i meant to say tbh

I stand by it too. there is clear evidence for my belief and I think it's a reasonable belief as well.

[PenguinPower]

wait - your belief that you're correct on what i was saying in response to titus or your belief that brian is scum?

[StraightFlush]

Gm, hasn’t realized the wagons were neck and neck like that until the votals got posted. Could definitely see scum being on both

Hu Tao trying to play kingmaker with who gets hammered seems scummy, but in a “this is so obviously scummy that scum wouldn’t bother trying it” way so idk

[StraightFlush]

Gm, hasn’t realized the wagons were neck and neck like that until the votals got posted. Could definitely see scum being on both

Hu Tao trying to play kingmaker with who gets hammered seems scummy, but in a “this is so obviously scummy that scum wouldn’t bother trying it” way so idk

[SmileyDude1]

Those who town lean Brian can I have you respond to my case in 269 (presented below for convenience).

Looked through Brian's ISO starting from their original Political Clout vote and came away with a negative outlook

Spoiler: Quote Wall

VOTE: Political Clout

They originally vote PC here

So, what, you're wanting some wagons to develop?

Sounds a bit suss to me.

Wagons are a valuable tool for hunting scum.

yessiree seems town to me.

This implies they voted there in order to create competing wagons for the benefit of scum hunting. I don't think their reasoning in 185 tracks with these initial postings. Like i get not pointing out the exact reasoning immediately if you think it should be apparent, but I feel like town in that position would've at least alluded to the fact that they were voting due to seeing scum-indicative behavior if that was the reasoning. The progression from this point doesn't feel natural to me.

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

This is in response to PC's 179 and I don't think this makes sense either when looked at from the perspective of scumreading PC from before. This response assumes a level of good faith that I don't think matches with the stance they took in 185. I would expect Brian to be more immediately dubious of PC here given the stance they took if that was there natural thought process.

I'm not really convinced your vote on me is anything other than OMGUS.

This is the last post they made before their 185 and I think it has the same issue as the above post. I feel like calling PC's vote an OMGUS there also kind of assumes a level of good faith that doesn't match here. Like OMGUS does have negative connotation, but it leaves room for "misguided townie making a bad vote" in such a way that it feels dissonant given the stated thought process indicates that Brian would've believed that PC is more likely scum than town at this point. I could see this post being an attempt at giving themselves an off-ramp with 185 coming afterwards when PC doesn't back down.

It kind of gets into heated back and forth between the two slots afterwards that I don't think I have enough expertise with emotions to accurately sort (not to mention I don't think i'd get much out of it anyways)

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

VOTE: Brian

It's post midnight where I am right now, will probs be back tomorrow

[SmileyDude1]

Also thought it pertinent to clarify something here. I do see how PC's early game could be viewed as an attempt to rolefish, but I don't think that's what is going on here. As I mentioned in my 92, I liked the analysis PC presented early on (took a quick look at their ISO before going to bed last night and I think that still holds up to me) and I think this gave me more vibes of reaction gauging over rolefishing, in this instance.

[Hu Tao]

StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.

I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????

[StraightFlush]

StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.

I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????

If dave and I are scummates, that was some pretty clumsy distancing from him earlier when he accused me of slipping for no reason

[Political Clout]

wait - your belief that you're correct on what i was saying in response to titus or your belief that brian is scum?

wait you're asking instead of plowing ahead with absolute confidence? mr. penguin you're a better penguin than the next.

both but to your question titus