Micro Normal 1102: ootmgoat [game over!]

[Hu Tao]

Hi.

[Hu Tao]

The only 2 players I fear. Kay and Dannflor. How will I survive this game

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: hu tao

fear me

Naur

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

[Hu Tao]

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

[Hu Tao]

Okay let me do one of my fake townslips I do to be townread 1 sec

[Hu Tao]

At the start I thought Dragon was the mod until he started talking to me

[Hu Tao]

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

[Hu Tao]

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

Tell me who the scum are please, I’m exhausted today

If it were only that easy

[Hu Tao]

The only 2 players I fear. Kay and Dannflor. How will I survive this game

Hey, I want to be feared too! How do you know you shouldn't fear me?

I guess we will find out soon enough

[Hu Tao]

Well dragon is town.

[Hu Tao]

I feel like Kay's post was a joke so I'm saying nai on that.

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

You caught me

[Hu Tao]

Then in this case I will say they are sarcastic. Unless you think a game with 5 scum and 4 town is possible.

You tell me

I feel like you're playing the newbie / "I'm so lost" card too much for it to be natural and hiding behind it sorta

VOTE: KayJayQueue

Well if it eases your worry - that was, in fact, a joke.

There were also these other posts that gave me this impression, which in spite of the light-hearted framing, still comes across as emphasizing your newness. I guess it's this behavior plus not commenting on other things in the game, hence giving me the "hiding behind it" feeling

Spoiler:

Oh wow Dannflor is in this game. So I can get live coaching from him on this.

Wait, where do I sign up for coaching?! I’m sure everyone knows I need it lol

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

Tell me who the scum are please, I’m exhausted today

I don’t know these people well enough to know if this is all sarcasm or not.

While I don't agree with the read, I can see you genuinely coming up with this read. Gonna say cat town

[Hu Tao]

I wanna say (may, hu tao, DK) is probably maybe hopefully where all the scum are

Well it's not me so you better hope that's the team

[Hu Tao]

My only reads are Dragon and Cat town but I feel pretty good about them.

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

How do you know I didn't get a read from it without asking me?

[Hu Tao]

damn Black is here to play

Vote Hu with me? I'm fairly confident she's scum

I saw your case, but I'd expect most people to react defensively if someone asked them to start playing seriously on page 2

I guess I'll wait for her respond to the Dragon read thing, but I didn't really see an issue with her 50

I think town!Hu is more likely to make a joke there and brush it off. Scum!Hu is more likely to get defensive like she did. She asked three questions in one post lol. She wasn't having it

So.. I don't make jokes as town?

[Hu Tao]

Sadly I think this leans toward how black plays as town.

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

How do you know I didn't get a read from it without asking me?

You said you didn't have any reads right after that

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

I think you may have missed this post then. I feel very comfortable reading dragon. My question is why did you ask me my current reads now or the reason as to why?

[Hu Tao]

Did you expect me to have a read right after the conversation and not see how he reacts to the game in general?

[Hu Tao]

Of all those talking I want to eliminate gimli

VOTE: Gimli

[Hu Tao]

That's literally the post I'm talking about

I don't think your recent Dragon and Cat townreads are very compelling. You're like the 3rd or 4th person to express them. And now you're sheeping the Black townreads too. Seems pretty convenient

I feel pretty confident reading all 3 of you. I've never been wrong on any of you

[Hu Tao]

Of all those talking I want to eliminate gimli

VOTE: Gimli

Why Gimli?

I'm scared of Dann and Kay. DK I want to give more time to figure out with and talk with Dragon about. You Cat and Dragon I Town read. May is a ghost. This is where I am at right now

[Hu Tao]

I also don't think Gimli has done anything towny. If anything to me he is similar to death note.

[Hu Tao]

Like I feel he has just been parroting people. Parroted Dragon about people not doing AI stuff. Then parrots the Kay scumread from Cat. Then parrots the scumread on me from you.

can we go back to doing AI stuff?

I agree with CSF on kay, I think all her entrances in the game felt like she is excusing herself from the game

VOTE: kayjayqueue

its probably this and someone who hasnt posted yet

Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.

do you have reads tho, kay?

I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input

black town

Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.

do you have reads tho, kay?

I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input

otoh I kinda dig this reaction to being wagoned, doesnt feel like a scum reacting to it

VOTE: hu tao

sheeping the queen

Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.

do you have reads tho, kay?

I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input

You may see things as AI but I’ve only played with 2 of these people so for everyone else, I can’t tell if it’s their personality, their play style or something that would indicate to me that they are scum. If you say there has been a lot, I can honestly say I can’t pinpoint much if any yet. If that’s going to make me a target or read as using being new as an excuse for being scum, I don’t know what else I can do. But it gets a little tiring when everything I do is construed as faking my inexperience or using it as an excuse, and that being used as a scumread on me.

This isn’t just about this game, it’s been in every game so I’m sorry for being a bit exhausted from defending myself from those specific accusations.

you towning ez

pedit: yes nice read, black

good to be towning with you

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: dragon eater

Naur. Dragon is town here. This is his town meta trust

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Not Black but if it helps I also didn't feel like you were trying to get a read on me. And I'm a little surprised you'd be expecting to grt something AI from how I answer the question of whether I'm confident on reading you.
Anyway, since you claim to be townreading me, care to explain why?

Inread you differently than I do other players. I read you based on reactions to things.

I asked you that question because that one game you said you felt you could read me but I was scum and pocketing you. So I was seeing how you would react and if you would give an answer I didn't like. In terms of why I Town read you, your reactions here are something I don't see from your scum game ever so yeah.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Gimli

Yes. Join!

[Hu Tao]

Of all those talking I want to eliminate gimli

VOTE: Gimli

Why Gimli?

I'm scared of Dann and Kay. DK I want to give more time to figure out with and talk with Dragon about. You Cat and Dragon I Town read. May is a ghost. This is where I am at right now

Wdym by you're scared of dann and kay?

Kay I hard town read last game and she was scum. So I was fooled badly. Dann I think is hard for me to read

[Hu Tao]

also I do agree DE's posts are bad. I still think they're bad in a towny way but I can maybe see this being scum.

I kinda liked how hu tao defended herself

Another parrot

[Hu Tao]

also I do agree DE's posts are bad. I still think they're bad in a towny way but I can maybe see this being scum.

I kinda liked how hu tao defended herself

Wow. You know something, I have had ENOUGH of hearing how it's "towny" for me to have "bad posts", EVERY SINGLE GAME. I have had enough of hearing about how I sound awkward but that that doesn't mean I'm scum because "I always sound awkward as town", EVERY SINGLE GAME.

I don't fucking care if you disagree with my posts this game (except you don't, you townread Black and CSF just as much as I do), but DON'T say my posts are fucking bad every game. I was the only person who not only had you as Kira but also RR as follower last game. And in my previous town game I literally found both scum by freaking page 3 and held on to that read for a while (yes I gave it up in the end because it felt "too easy", but still). So for the love of god I don't want to hear about how my posts are bad when I am town EVER AGAIN.

And your progression on me is trash. You claimed I was a locktown earlier. If you really believed that you wouldn't be voting me just cause I made a "bad case" on Duelist Kage or cause I "fired a warning shot" (I did not in fact fire a warning shot, May is misinterpreting that post, but I am not going to argue on that cause then it goes into "wink wink nudge nudge" meta stuff). Ehat exactly is bad about my posts? Townreading Black? Townreading CSF? Not immediately locktowning you because you locktowned me? Bullshit.

Dragon is 1000000% town this game

[Hu Tao]

Something about this AtE feels bad

I take back my town lean on you for this. But you have time to gain it back

[Hu Tao]

replacing DragonEater70.

Naur

[Hu Tao]

May is town
Dragon slot is town
Cat I lean town on right now
Black I don't want right now.

[Hu Tao]

It could actually be Gimli and Kay

[Hu Tao]

I still prefer Gimli based on everything I said

[Hu Tao]

I still prefer Gimli based on everything I said

what about DK?

Could be too. But I prefer you or Kay I think more. Kay kinda did the thing where she relied on being new last game as scum so maybe that's her crutch

[Hu Tao]

She's very good at posting towny posts and I learned that lesson last game when she was scum. But idk. I'll see what others have to say. I still think you're scummy because of what you've been doing. Unless you can post a town game where you parrot as much as you have here

[Hu Tao]

She's very good at posting towny posts and I learned that lesson last game when she was scum. But idk. I'll see what others have to say. I still think you're scummy because of what you've been doing. Unless you can post a town game where you parrot as much as you have here

I'm actually pretty decent at scum and don't need to parrot anyone the way you're suggesting I am

Parroting doesn't mean you're bad at scum. It's just scummy behavior.

[Hu Tao]

I still think Gimli is the best vote here. Black can you explain why you Town read Gimli? Also what's different about him here than in Death Note?

[Hu Tao]

Something about this AtE feels bad

I take back my town lean on you for this. But you have time to gain it back

I don't give a fuck

Why so hostile?

[Hu Tao]

Okay. So you do agree with me that Gimli could be scum. Great

[Hu Tao]

ok gimli town

Here

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:

Why unvote?

[Hu Tao]

ok gimli town

Here

You're kidding me right

Maybe take a look at the context of that townread

I see

[Hu Tao]

(may, kjq, kage)

may's posting is horrendously bad rn and I guess I shouldn't townread her just for being antagonistic

Not sure how you get the May read because nothing has been horrendous. Can you quote the horrendously bad posts in question?

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:

Why unvote?

Didn’t want a possible elimination when I didn’t think I had a full grasp on the game or my reads. I need to really go back through now that I’m not distracted at work and get more solid feelings about people.

No one is gonna hammer and it takes pressure off of him

[Hu Tao]

Could be Gimli trying to get Kay not to vote him

[Hu Tao]

Could be Gimli trying to get Kay not to vote him

yes hu tao please interpret every single thing I do as a scum thing this is how you scumhunt effectively you goddamn tunneler lol

at least you're not limbait this game ig

Why can't I be scum? You're saying in playing different as I was last time when I was town.

[Hu Tao]

Looks like a “anyone but me” strategy in full effect.

Revote?

[Hu Tao]

black your hu vote feels stale

I agree. I'm surprised she thinks I'm scum here

[Hu Tao]

i think black is trending towards her scum meta

she's had one push with any depth and that was on hu tao very early, and since then she hasn't really shown any real movement on that read or really on anyone else despite huge changes in the gamestate with dragon repping out

i guess there was the whole dragon/gimli scum team theory, but my gut says that a town!black would have accompanied that with a vote

i think she tends to be a lot more fluid with her votes and stances as town and here it feels like she's kinda stuck on hu tao without a natural way of moving off

i still think the interactions with you look weird but maybe it's just from her side

I disagree. I think this is her town game

[Hu Tao]

drew theyre trying to kill me pls help

Meh

UNVOTE:

Is there a tldr before I catch up?

Yes. Gimli scum

[Hu Tao]

Let's flip drew

Or gimli

[Hu Tao]

My brain feels stuck in 2009

We could push Hu Tao for anime avatar

My avatar is as anime as yours

[Hu Tao]

My brain feels stuck in 2009

We could push Hu Tao for anime avatar

My avatar is as anime as yours

Less so I would say, unless there is a Genshin anime I don't know about?

Pokemon is OG anime

It was announced but hasn't released yet

[Hu Tao]

Just because I’ve only given one in-depth read doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Until proven otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with my read.

its fine you're just probably scum this game

being on my wagon is smart

Weird how before you were content not to defend yourself because you thought I was town and understood why I was scum reading you? Now you’re just being dismissive that I’m scum and giving the condescending “it’s fine”. I really do hope you’re scum and are just playing the part to put sus on me because if this is really how you are as town when you get heat (such as saying I’m not on your level and that I was wrong because I’m new) then it’s not a very inviting environment as a new player to come into. If everything is based on meta and “how they normally play” or “I always do this as town” it alienates anyone that is new and unfamiliar with past games or the players. It feels like a crutch to just say it’s a meta.

I don't think newscum writes this

Don't fall for her tricks so easily. I said this multiple times last game and she was scum she's a sneaky one

[Hu Tao]

I want to Town read Kay. But I'm weary based on last game. Either way I don't think I want her today

[Hu Tao]

Kay's response in some sense isn't really scumhunting but wraps language around the dual possibility of every other slot in a way that seems alignment indicative.

what does this mean? like the "wraps language around the dual possibility of every other slot" part

I wanna answer in Spanish but I'm afraid I'll get banned for encryption

Same

[Hu Tao]

How many times will Gimli get to E-1 and someone unvote quickly

[Hu Tao]

CSF's avatar is truly a warm blanket of familiarity and comfort in a sea of edgy dark avatars

Hu Tao's is anime but she just kinda looks if i played genshin impact i would learn that character is a palace assassin or something

She's a prankster

[Hu Tao]

replacing KayJayQueue.

Naur

[Hu Tao]

Sorry Gimli but all roads lead back to you as scum every time I try to find a scenario you're town

[Hu Tao]

Nice

[Hu Tao]

DE slot flipping scum spews all of may/gimli/duelist town

Don't think they are flipping scum

[Hu Tao]

I have read the entirety of Page 1 and skimmed the last two pages

Disappointingly, my top townread coming out of Page 1 is Gimli
I also think he's probably right about Dragon being town

I will be sus of Dann if he doesn't townread at least one of them when he starts posting reads

[Hu Tao]

Hmm. I'm not sure who I want. I like a few slots.

[Hu Tao]

Hmm. I'm not sure who I want. I like a few slots.

Are you a beliefer in the May sucm

Possibly!

[Hu Tao]

I still want Klick/Gimli

[Hu Tao]

JacksonVirgo -Prob town?
Dannflor - ????
Klick - prob scum
Black - town
Doctor Drew - town
Hu Tao- Hu Taown
Duelist Kage - scummy?
Cat Scratch Fever - sus maybe?
May - maybe town

I think this is where I'm at

[Hu Tao]

I thought they were town at first. But now idk she's just around.

[Hu Tao]

Just around? Do you think her recent posts are sus or what?

Not really but they don't stand out. She's just blending in. Which usually isn't a good thing

[Hu Tao]

Hu Taown is like the cutest thing ever

[Hu Tao]

This is the most I have gotten fired up in a game of mafia in awhile, is invigorating I will admit lol

Drew is TOWN

[Hu Tao]

I think we go Klick or Kage. I am fine with either

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao I'm pretty sure you are town and I don't want 'I think Klick is scum' to be a recurring theme
Do you want to sort this out now or later
I could probably make a pretty good town case for Gimli but also I'm just town

Let's do this now then. Why are you town

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao I'm pretty sure you are town and I don't want 'I think Klick is scum' to be a recurring theme
Do you want to sort this out now or later
I could probably make a pretty good town case for Gimli but also I'm just town

Let's do this now then. Why are you town

Ignores

[Hu Tao]

Klick > Kage imo

[Hu Tao]

Klick > Kage imo

Instructions unclear. Is that saying you want to vote out Klick over me here, or saying you want to vote Klick today and me tomorrow?

Klick is the preferred vote

[Hu Tao]

I think she's not gonna participate in day 2 lol

Naur. Doc be on me please

[Hu Tao]

if I'm honest Klick your play thus far is much more in line with what I expect from scum!you than town!you, you seem less relaxed (or like, more careful?) in your posting than I'm used to and I know you've talked about having anxiety playing scum in recent years

Then why is no one voting Klick. Idgi

[Hu Tao]

Dragon was towny and drew is towny. Idk why anyone would vote that right now.

[Hu Tao]

I'm surprised I'm townread so much this game

[Hu Tao]

I'm surprised I'm townread so much this game

Do you think you're been scummy

Nope

[Hu Tao]

What's the vote count?

[Hu Tao]

I agree. I think it's one scum trying to push the drew narrative

[Hu Tao]

I think Klick or Kage will be the Elim today.

[Hu Tao]

Not too much. I don't think Klick has either though. But I'm fine with either.

[Hu Tao]

HAHAHAHA you love to see it

[Hu Tao]

I think we eliminate Klick today. But let's wait for everyone to check in

[Hu Tao]

I don't think klick is mafia because she wanted us to lim inside the neighborhood in general.

I don't think Hu Tao is scum because Hu Taown.

The only other off wagon player was me. I think I'm scum.

I think scum was on wagon and I wanna understand who was bussing

Who would you say your biggest tr is?

[Hu Tao]

Let's all mass claim

[Hu Tao]

I agree

[Hu Tao]

I go last cause it's gonna be spicy

[Hu Tao]

So we need claims from pooky, drew and may?

[Hu Tao]

I guess we wait on cat to confirm that he is role blocker?

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Dann

[Hu Tao]

I'm just a neighbor.

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:

Sorry pooky

So did you not block Dann?

[Hu Tao]

I can't believe I fake claimed cop to both scum LMAO

[Hu Tao]

May softed cop pretty early day 1 though. So I was afraid scum would see it. But I figured it was worth fake claiming cop in the neighborhood if 1 was scum. Didn't think it would be both

[Hu Tao]

sorry for the repout

thanks dats for modding

thanks klick for repping in and having perfect reads

truly a mafia game that was played on this mafia site

Sorry gimli for tunneling you

[Hu Tao]

Thank you for modding Datsi!!!

[Hu Tao]

Datisi***

[Hu Tao]

When did I soft cop???

Sadly I think this leans toward how black plays as town.

This seems townie

Seems like you probably die if you post this.

Like I'll probably learn Hu Tao's alignment when Datisi resolves twilight today

I thought this was a cop soft

[Hu Tao]

I had dann as scum from day 1.

Nice roleblock.

Joining another game soon?

[Hu Tao]

I had dann as scum from day 1.

Nice roleblock.

Joining another game soon?

Not anytime soon, I might play the champions game on Mafia Universe next.

But i'm following some games on here.

Ah okay!

[Hu Tao]

i see

I hope I roll scum with you one day