Micro Normal 1102: ootmgoat [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.02

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-27 13:00:00).

yeet

KayJayQueue [2]:

Cat Scratch Fever, Dannflor

Hu Tao [2]:

Black, Gimli

Duelist Kage [1]:

DragonEater70

not voting [4]:

KayJayQueue, Hu Tao, Duelist Kage, May

mod notes

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[Hu Tao]

I wanna say (may, hu tao, DK) is probably maybe hopefully where all the scum are

Well it's not me so you better hope that's the team

[Hu Tao]

My only reads are Dragon and Cat town but I feel pretty good about them.

[KayJayQueue]

Then in this case I will say they are sarcastic. Unless you think a game with 5 scum and 4 town is possible.

You tell me

I feel like you're playing the newbie / "I'm so lost" card too much for it to be natural and hiding behind it sorta

VOTE: KayJayQueue

Well if it eases your worry - that was, in fact, a joke.

There were also these other posts that gave me this impression, which in spite of the light-hearted framing, still comes across as emphasizing your newness. I guess it's this behavior plus not commenting on other things in the game, hence giving me the "hiding behind it" feeling

Spoiler:

Oh wow Dannflor is in this game. So I can get live coaching from him on this.

Wait, where do I sign up for coaching?! I’m sure everyone knows I need it lol

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

Tell me who the scum are please, I’m exhausted today

I don’t know these people well enough to know if this is all sarcasm or not.

Maybe it’s because, and here’s a wild thought, I am new. And the players I’m joking with are the only ones I’m acquainted with so I feel better engaging with them with lighthearted banter.

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I have DE as town, and gimli and black as probably town

Everyone else is a big ?

...i guess those reads aren't very innovative lol

[Black]

Well I just looked over Kay's scum game and I don't think I can confidently toss her in the town bin yet

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

If this becomes the majority consensus, I better start rereading this thread because I focused way too much of my energy on figuring out who I believed on the Hu vs Naerys drama just to realize I should’ve been paying more attention to psyche’s read on NAS or the 3 votes on gera that happened in quick succession.

Oh and like idk

What is stopping you just clicking psyche’s ISO or the post i just quoted and seeing what you think about it right now?

it feels performative to talk about all the work you gotta do or that you might have to do or that you should’ve done before because if you’re town and genuinely interested in solving, i don’t get why your energies aren’t just focused on doing the solving now

pedit: drew (titus’ predecessor) made posts! What do you think of those??

I can’t do anything about you thinking I’m being “performative”, that’s just how I express myself. And it seems a big unfair to assume I’m not focused on solving things, I’ve been giving this game a lot of my attention. Some things I felt more strongly about and that’s where my attention went. If things I wasn’t giving as much thought to begin to gain steam, I’m just being honest when I say I need to take a better look.

You seem to be jumping on everything I do trying to find a reason to sus me. Yeah, that’s the game, I get it, sus everyone but honestly, it’s getting a bit

exhausting

. I don’t even have a scum read on you, if anything, being cautious about me is normal as it would be for anyone. I didn’t think anything of it at first. I still think you’re probably more likely town but whatever problem you seem to have with me might get in the way of us working together.

Maybe I’m just overreacting right now because I just worked 59 hours in the past 4 days and I’m mentally drained and still trying to have fun playing this game. I’ll try not to overthink on this since I don’t think pushing back against you is helping us.

I found this little bit of emotional response. I bolded the word "exhausting" because it seemed noteworthy that the same terminology was used here

I also noticed Kay talked about not knowing anyone's meta several times in that game and even used it as a reason for not having good reads. We've seen a bit of that here already

I haven't had the chance to look at her town game to compare and I don't think I'll get the chance tonight

[Cat Scratch Fever]

damn Black is here to play

[Black]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

[Black]

damn Black is here to play

Vote Hu with me? I'm fairly confident she's scum

[KayJayQueue]

That was my very first game, ever. It’s true that I didn’t know anyone’s meta. How am I supposed to? And it’s still true. Just because I was scum doesn’t mean everything I did or said was a lie. I know that will probably be twisted or written off as a lie as well but I don’t know what to say. I basically ignored the fact I was scum and just used that game to familiarize myself with how a long form game is played.

[Black]

That was my very first game, ever. It’s true that I didn’t know anyone’s meta. How am I supposed to? And it’s still true. Just because I was scum doesn’t mean everything I did or said was a lie. I know that will probably be twisted or written off as a lie as well but I don’t know what to say. I basically ignored the fact I was scum and just used that game to familiarize myself with how a long form game is played.

This is believable. And I never said you were supposed to know people's meta, I just found it interesting that you used that in both games as a reason for not having any reads

I still think you're most likely town I just can't base my read off of your emotional response like I did originally

[Black]

Kay what are your thoughts on Hu?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

damn Black is here to play

Vote Hu with me? I'm fairly confident she's scum

I saw your case, but I'd expect most people to react defensively if someone asked them to start playing seriously on page 2

I guess I'll wait for her respond to the Dragon read thing, but I didn't really see an issue with her 50

[Black]

damn Black is here to play

Vote Hu with me? I'm fairly confident she's scum

I saw your case, but I'd expect most people to react defensively if someone asked them to start playing seriously on page 2

I guess I'll wait for her respond to the Dragon read thing, but I didn't really see an issue with her 50

I think town!Hu is more likely to make a joke there and brush it off. Scum!Hu is more likely to get defensive like she did. She asked three questions in one post lol. She wasn't having it

[Gimli]

ignore gimli he is just gonna sit here and be black's double voter today

[Black]

I'm honestly ok with this as long as you keep giving reads

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

How do you know I didn't get a read from it without asking me?

[Hu Tao]

damn Black is here to play

Vote Hu with me? I'm fairly confident she's scum

I saw your case, but I'd expect most people to react defensively if someone asked them to start playing seriously on page 2

I guess I'll wait for her respond to the Dragon read thing, but I didn't really see an issue with her 50

I think town!Hu is more likely to make a joke there and brush it off. Scum!Hu is more likely to get defensive like she did. She asked three questions in one post lol. She wasn't having it

So.. I don't make jokes as town?

[Hu Tao]

Sadly I think this leans toward how black plays as town.

[Black]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

How do you know I didn't get a read from it without asking me?

You said you didn't have any reads right after that

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Hu Tao can you stop deliberately doing NAI stuff and start doing AI stuff?

Why? It is literally 1.5 pages in? And why ask me this over everyone else?

Everyone else are not deliberately doing NAI things but are deliberately doing AI things

Do you feel confident enough to read me if I start?

I don't like this sequence from Hu. She seems overly defensive in response to Dragon telling her to do stuff. Then she questions Dragon's confidence in reading her which to me feels like she's trying to sow doubt in his mind

Why was this your first thought instead of me trying to get a read on dragon?

Because you didn't get a read from it. You just started joking with Dragon about town slips and then moved on. I don't think you were actually trying to get a read there

How do you know I didn't get a read from it without asking me?

You said you didn't have any reads right after that

Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried

I think you may have missed this post then. I feel very comfortable reading dragon. My question is why did you ask me my current reads now or the reason as to why?

[Hu Tao]

Did you expect me to have a read right after the conversation and not see how he reacts to the game in general?

[Hu Tao]

Of all those talking I want to eliminate gimli

VOTE: Gimli

[Black]

That's literally the post I'm talking about

I don't think your recent Dragon and Cat townreads are very compelling. You're like the 3rd or 4th person to express them. And now you're sheeping the Black townreads too. Seems pretty convenient