Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Sanae Kochiya]

Right, I'm asking what the other scum were doing in the town-me universe - why do they need to set up wagon comps?
The universe of 'Larva is trying to save partner-me' has already been fairly well-explicated

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Can you imagine I'm town please - what do you think scum were doing EoD1?

Question for you: what do you think Larva (who looks like the designated deepwolf slot) swapping off of you onto Ichirin in a way that breaks progression for the first time the entire game mean for the rest of the scumteam

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Right, I'm asking what the other scum were doing in the town-me universe - why do they need to set up wagon comps?
The universe of 'Larva is trying to save partner-me' has already been fairly well-explicated

Gotchya. Idk I’d probably be looking to play the anti associative game if I’m scum with competing town wagons.

[Koishi Komeiji]

I am here but not really needed.


I will be around tomorrow morning to read the Marisa case.

[Daiyousei]

I am here but not really needed.

day 2 motto

[Daiyousei]

sorry but you need 200+ posts to be a cool kid now

i did it!!!!!!!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya I wanna say again you are super clutch. I imagine koishi dying would have had larva in a really good spot especially with koishis dying reads as a crutch if they did have to lean on it.

You da bird.

I'm gonna be proud of that one for a while, I think.

[Clownpiece]

I told Aya about Larva...

[Clownpiece]

My business with Aya has concluded.

[Koishi Komeiji]

So everyone is ready for the road trip except Marisa who said she would be five minutes because she had to use the restroom but now it's been like twenty minutes and we are wondering if we should send a search party. Got it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Can you imagine I'm town please - what do you think scum were doing EoD1?

It depends on who they are as people.
I might get complacent, but more likely than not I’d have taken clown piece’s position and been unwilling to move off of Ichirin after being called out, but it’s in general unique to me that I prefer directly pushing town off as a cliff as scum rather than letting town do that for me.

It just really depends. They might not have posted, they might have jockeyed for most influential position after the flip/try to secure your flip after the dust settles from all the role actions.

They might be “lazy” and park their vote on you in lieu of better ideas or they might explicitly try to move the wagon on to another town to create a false choice that they’ve made rather than one a towns person might make.

[Yuuka Kazami]

So everyone is ready for the road trip except Marisa who said she would be five minutes because she had to use the restroom but now it's been like twenty minutes and we are wondering if we should send a search party. Got it.

They said tomorrow and it’s not tomorrow.

[Yuuka Kazami]

They could also try to half heartedly convince everyone to vote their scum partner in a misguided attempt to earn credibility down the line for a solo win.

There’s a lot of hypotheticals and narratives , but I don’t know understand what each player is doing and how it advances their win condition.
I don’t really see anyone doing anything particularly scummy right now, perhaps just due to the game power dynamics shifting from something more equal to concentrated in the more likely to be town folk.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I guess in an alternative universe where I was hypothetically less in need of being chill I would’ve shaken clown piece for using that ability until an answer fell out rather than just letting them coast on a town read just in case it was a prerequisite for another ability/a set up.

But that seemed fairly far fetch’d anyway.

[Yuuka Kazami]

In hypothetical Sanae town world I would be less confused on Marisa but oddly enough I’m not sure if I’d be more or less likely to be scum reading their approach. So I guess I’d still be just as confused.

Kaguya’s approach has been very unique. I’m not sure what to make of their collapse of confidence that sort of wasn’t a collapse of confidence when it came to whether your role was bullshit or not.

Uncharitably it could be that they need to show indecision but not actually be indecisive.

Charitably, there’s no real clear answer so hesitating and then reinflating, revaluing the read through something else makes sense I guess.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Dai’s play makes sense to me, I’m not sure it’s actually something that scum couldn’t occupy, but town tend to occupy it. Surprising given I was leaning scum on them before this dp.

Then again I’m not bouncing off as hard to what they’re saying now as opposed to then. So it’s not actually surprising on consideration.

[Koishi Komeiji]

So everyone is ready for the road trip except Marisa who said she would be five minutes because she had to use the restroom but now it's been like twenty minutes and we are wondering if we should send a search party. Got it.

They said tomorrow and it’s not tomorrow.

Yes, that was the joke, everyone else is ready except them.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen is the player that seems the most silo’d this dp, I’m not sure if it’s intentional that they’re popping in and giving takes that don’t really require responses or if that’s just a coincidence. I tend to think that kind of subtle discouragement of discourse can be a scum sign, but it’s hard for me to even really know if I’m reading that right.

Kagerou has gone down but only because of their absence really, I suppose a crux of a read shouldn’t be based in a vig role and whether the mod would give them the ability as scum or not.

And what would counter balance that. I think conventionally I’m a little neutral but it still feels like this is like saying, sure the bullet bounced off of koishi but how do you really know scum didn’t shoot their partner eh? Ehhhh?

And I’m just like. No.
No that’s weird.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Not intentional but also I’m what some people would call “In the fucking zone”.

With the exception of like Koishi, the rest of my reads have been pretty on point I think.

I do wanna minimize second guessing myself. The only thing that would really dump me on my head is like crazy night play. Like if scum never shot koichi and aya ran a gambit claiming that redirect.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Actually is there a world where tenshi was the nk and the vig bounced to larva?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I guess that still makes aya town if larva got hit that way.





Yuuka ihysm right now.

[Koishi Komeiji]

With the exception of like Koishi

I'm just that attractive?

I didn't have the impression you were scum reading me D1 that hard though?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Sanae I haven’t gone through your iso but I’m down to talk things out while we’re waiting.

In line with your hypothetical I’ll assume you’re town and you got roleblocked. I know your vote is already on me so besides me where’s your head at? As far as scum pushing for you to get limmed.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

With the exception of like Koishi

I'm just that attractive?

I didn't have the impression you were scum reading me D1 that hard though?

It went back and forth, I thought you were playing sneaky until your claim and then it kinda made sense and then late in the day when people were pushing for you to be the lim outside of the 1v1 I thought you could be town.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Also in the spirit of your hypothetical Sanae if you’re town why do you think the ichirin lim pulled through instead of yours?

It isn’t like scum would be afraid of ichirins role more than yours and even if there is a roleblocker in play I don’t think they would have used the resources on ichirin so what would make them opt for doing that instead of just tagging in the extra votes to see you out?