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[Alianna]

2.06

Votecount 2.06

Ranger (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Thomith, PenguinPower, Gypyx
Naerys (1): Little Will o' Wisp
Hu Tao (1): Naerys
geraintm (1): Ranger

Not Voting (5): Oblivion, Snow2697, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Titus

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Alianna]

Little Will o' Wisp has not picked up his prod and is being replaced.

[Gypyx]

your read list barely changes. you not got tunneled on gypyx?

Being tunneled is an accusation often levied against me despite my very philosophy embodying the opposite. Generally, I hold a skeptical eye towards those doing so, as their callout usually carries an agenda; "X is tunneled" is oft synonymous with "X's reads are not to be trusted", and thus 'tunneled' is a charged term inherently carrying a negative connotation that detracts from the value of my contributions.

In this case, I've good reasons from the neighborhood to hold suspicion of Gypyx and Thomith, yet nothing is set in stone. I've already experienced doubts after engaging with Gypyx, as Gypyx's responses to me felt plausibly town. My reads are fluid and subject to change at a moment's notice. Notably, I've gained greater suspicion of you from this comment.

elaborate on how i'm plausibly town please

[Thomith]

In what world am I the top read?

In the world where Thomith and Gypyx are scum in the neighborhood, by default you would be town, especially given your opposition to them.

Even separately of that, your opposition to them is +town regardless of your alignment. You are demonstrably frustrated at being outvoted and outgunned. Your way may not be the only way, but when you don't get it, it affects you. A scum-Titus is also more likely to get her way. That you didn't speaks towards you being town. If you were scum I would expect your voice to carry more weight in there, yet your voice there is a minority. It speaks towards you not having the normal sway signature to a scum-Titus hood.

Additionally, nobody's strongly town. You're the most town

from what I've read

, yet my reads are still fluid and in the process of forming, as I've many more pages to read.

You'd be the first to point out the signs I'm pointing to aren't

strongly

indicators of a town-Titus, and you're right; you're not locked as town. You're temporarily my top townread, yet to be seen where you'll land overall. I have you as +town, by an uncertain margin, because though not locked as town, I think the signs are still

promising

for town.

Why would me/gypyx being scum make Titus town by default?

[geraintm]

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Naerys}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{geraintm}

Loosely, from the new content; reminder I still need to read pages 6 - current.

So my posts since you've been in the game.put me as most likely scum??
Why?

[geraintm]

Day 1, Titus and snow were voting Dave-slot at certain points (moreso than Thom/Gypyx) and today they aren’t. I’m wondering if they changed their mind or if they’re also just waiting.

I don't like Dave, but I also don't like self-proclaimed Thomith-Gypyx townblock.

This, again

[geraintm]

VOTE: Hu Tao

That seems from out of nowhere. I checked your history and couldn't see where it came from?

Explain?

[geraintm]

your read list barely changes. you not got tunneled on gypyx?

Being tunneled is an accusation often levied against me despite my very philosophy embodying the opposite. Generally, I hold a skeptical eye towards those doing so, as their callout usually carries an agenda; "X is tunneled" is oft synonymous with "X's reads are not to be trusted", and thus 'tunneled' is a charged term inherently carrying a negative connotation that detracts from the value of my contributions.

In this case, I've good reasons from the neighborhood to hold suspicion of Gypyx and Thomith, yet nothing is set in stone. I've already experienced doubts after engaging with Gypyx, as Gypyx's responses to me felt plausibly town. My reads are fluid and subject to change at a moment's notice. Notably, I've gained greater suspicion of you from this comment.

Hmm, I can't really disagree much with stuff you are pulling from thr Hood hat:(

[Ranger]

your read list barely changes. you not got tunneled on gypyx?

Being tunneled is an accusation often levied against me despite my very philosophy embodying the opposite. Generally, I hold a skeptical eye towards those doing so, as their callout usually carries an agenda; "X is tunneled" is oft synonymous with "X's reads are not to be trusted", and thus 'tunneled' is a charged term inherently carrying a negative connotation that detracts from the value of my contributions.

In this case, I've good reasons from the neighborhood to hold suspicion of Gypyx and Thomith, yet nothing is set in stone. I've already experienced doubts after engaging with Gypyx, as Gypyx's responses to me felt plausibly town. My reads are fluid and subject to change at a moment's notice. Notably, I've gained greater suspicion of you from this comment.

elaborate on how i'm plausibly town please

My reads are fluid and never perfect. My reads in this game especially so, given they’re not strong.

I was suspicious of your neighborhood content, as well as both your initial pages content and the push against me when replacing in, yet I’m aware of my own biases. I not only know my alignment, I also have my initial reads colored by my own philosophy of what I would be doing as town/scum.

Though your play matches what I'd do as scum and not what I'd do as town, you’re not me. Your playstyle, philosophy, and stances differ, and my initial negative thoughts about you are potentially wrong because of these differences.

Additionally, you gave me the benefit of the doubt, backing down after engaging with me. Talking rather than ignoring is a skill few scum players willingly employ, which doesn’t match well my initial assessment of you.

I’m still sorting, and have to get a better feeling for every interaction, especially once I have read the entire game thread.

[Ranger]

Why would me/gypyx being scum make Titus town by default?

I don’t believe a three scum neighborhood would pass review. It’d violate the spirit, despite following the letter.

[Ranger]

So my posts since you've been in the game.put me as most likely scum??
Why?

Your stances have seemed fairly sus, when not mobile I can demonstrate.

[Gypyx]

Why would me/gypyx being scum make Titus town by default?

I don’t believe a three scum neighborhood would pass review. It’d violate the spirit, despite following the letter.

a 3 scum hood absolutely pales in comparaison to some of the stuff that bianco has gotten through review

[Ranger]

You’re entitled to your opinion; I maintain mine.

[Gypyx]

You’re entitled to your opinion; I maintain mine.

large normal 177 : 9P hood, 3 mafias

large normal 185 : 9P hood, 3 Blue Mafias 2 Red Mafia

large normal 234 : 5P hood, 2 mafias

i'll admit, it's more rare than i though, but 185 sets a precedent for hoods with a scum majority, there also are plenty of minis with 1:2 hoods where scum is the 2, so i am confident this can get extrapolated that a 2:3 would pass

[Titus]

Ranger, I think Snow is very likely scum. Can't follow that. Nor do I follow your gypyx/Thom reada

[geraintm]

Ranger, I think Snow is very likely scum. Can't follow that. Nor do I follow your gypyx/Thom reada

Why are you not voting there then?

[Random Nurse]

Please place me on LA until Thursday morning. Dealing with IRL issues again.

[Naerys]

Hmmm

[Ranger]

Hmmm

Hmmm indeed.

VOTE: Naerys

[Ranger]

{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697}
{Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{geraintm}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Naerys}

[Ranger]

Ranger, I think Snow is very likely scum. Can't follow that. Nor do I follow your gypyx/Thom reads

I've vibed with Snow's contributions and haven't vibed with those of Gypyx/Thomith. I'll give more tomorrow.

[Thomith]

{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697}
{Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{geraintm}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Naerys}

Why are you suspecting Naerys/Willow?

[PenguinPower]

Not Voting (5): Oblivion, Snow2697, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Titus

Stop it. Stop it now.

[KayJayQueue]

Not Voting (5): Oblivion, Snow2697, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Titus

Stop it. Stop it now.

What

[KayJayQueue]

Hmmm

Hmmm indeed.

VOTE: Naerys

I don’t follow this at all