Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Daiyousei]

In dwelling on it some more, I don't see Mafia Marisa claiming to have targeted me with the Night 1 passive disable, because if it's a lie it's an extremely risky one and if it's the truth then it was an extremely-questionable-at-best decision given the Night 1 game state.

I also don't see Mafia Kaguya kicking up this much of a fuss about Marisa over role PM structure details when she already has a stated solve of Yuuka/Kagerou from earlier today, because it would have cost her absolutely nothing to just chalk Marisa's claim up to weirdness, give up on pursuing her, and fall back on that.

So I suppose I am tentatively plunking down a willingness to steamroll {Yuuka/Reisen/Kagerou} for the victory, with the understanding that not everyone will agree with my exclusion from this list.

[Koishi Komeiji]

Speak your truth.

You are not nearly feathered enough to replace her, sorrynotsorry.

[Marisa Kirisame]

with the understanding that not everyone will agree with my exclusion from this list.

I agree with your exclusion but not with Kaguya's

[Marisa Kirisame]

Anyway did I mention I was absent from the thread because I had a flight and now I'm jet lagged and it's really late now and I should sleep? Because I really should sleep.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

In dwelling on it some more, I don't see Mafia Marisa claiming to have targeted me with the Night 1 passive disable, because if it's a lie it's an extremely risky one and if it's the truth then it was an extremely-questionable-at-best decision given the Night 1 game state.

I also don't see Mafia Kaguya kicking up this much of a fuss about Marisa over role PM structure details when she already has a stated solve of Yuuka/Kagerou from earlier today, because it would have cost her absolutely nothing to just chalk Marisa's claim up to weirdness, give up on pursuing her, and fall back on that.

So I suppose I am tentatively plunking down a willingness to steamroll {Yuuka/Reisen/Kagerou} for the victory, with the understanding that not everyone will agree with my exclusion from this list.

I'm not ok with putting Marisa in the towncore

I'm also not ok with her stalling with the fullclaim after she got asked by Aya to fullclaim twice so that she doesn't have to full claim while sleep deprived when she evidently still had time and energy to case in thread

[Aya Shameimaru]

Has Bun's full claim come through? If so, yes we have it! I'm all a flurry of feathers!

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Dai who's passive do you think Mafrisa would disable over yours N1?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Has Bun's full claim come through? If so, yes we have it! I'm all a flurry of feathers!

Marisa's hasn't

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah but I asked nicely and she said no

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It's almost as if she doesn't have a fakeclaim ready yet

[Daiyousei]

Dai who's passive do you think Mafrisa would disable over yours N1?

Assuming Mafia Marisa? Any of the people who were generally better-thought-of than me at the time or had made their role central to their play. Piece, Tenshi, Koishi, probably others.

[Koishi Komeiji]

Dai who's passive do you think Mafrisa would disable over yours N1?

Assuming Mafia Marisa? Any of the people who were generally better-thought-of than me at the time or had made their role central to their play. Piece, Tenshi, Koishi, probably others.

I don't think mine would be worth disabling in this list unless mafia has a really cool strong negative day ability.

We still have some sort of day ability sitting in the ether.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Dai who's passive do you think Mafrisa would disable over yours N1?

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   • Wind Sign "Wind God's Fan" [Spellcard/Night] Deflector, resolves first
     
   • [Spellcard] Make all PTs found with PT Cop ability public
     
   • [Active/Night] PT Cop
     
   • [Passive] Invisible to action investigatives
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   • [Spellcard] Unknown, used N1 on Clownpiece
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Self-watch
     
   • [Passive] Notifies anyone visiting her that she's part of the scum team
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Wakasagihime
   • [Spellcard/Night] - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled, get 3 fish total when combined with singing
     
   • [Spellcard/Night] - Doctor a single person per two fish
     
   • [Active/Night] - Sing to get 1 fish (Resolves before my spellcards)
     
   • [Passive] - Invisible to action investigatives
     
   • [Passive] - In a hood with Daiyousei
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   • Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Juggernaut, can't be recharged
     
   • Magic Sign "Stardust Reverie" [Spellcard] Enter a hood, if it's temporary make it permanent
     
   • Burglary [Active/Night] Flavor Cop with extra effects
     
   • [Passive] Mod Confirmed to be
     Marisa Kirisame
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   • [Spellcard/Night] Change Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard target, both Koishi and new target are bulletproof for the night, informed if anyone attacked Koishi or new target
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard, target gets Strongwilled if Koishi dies at night
     
   • [Passive] Immune to Day Abilities, including vote multipliers
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   • [Spellcard] Unknown, used it to check Yuuka/Reisen/Koishi d1
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Redirect all actions targeting her to her target, if her target dies she dies
     
   • [Passive] Come back to life after dying
     
   • Misty Lake Resident [Passive] In a Hood with Kaguya Houraisan
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Active] Unknown
      
    • [Passive] Unknown
      
    • Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] You are in a neighborhood with Sanae Kochiya
11. Clownpiece -

    Toyosatomimi no Miko
    
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - Unknown, Lunarian
    • [Spellcard] Semi-protective
      
    • [Spellcard] Offset an action by a phase
      
    • [Active] Shut down PT
      
    • [Passive] Ascetic
      
    • [Passive] In a neighborhood with Eternity Larva at night
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

Known scum abilities:

• Spellcard Blocker - Used on Sanae N1
  
• Passive ability disabler - Used on Kagerou N1 and Kaguya N2

Tenshi doable
Aya claimed Stealthy so not really an important passive
Yuuka claimed Super Miller so not really an important passive
Kaguya doable
Kagerou had the flavor reveal so not really an important passive since it already happened
Koishi claimed Immune to Day Abilities so only needed if scum had day abilities that they needed to use on Koishi (and since she was getting shot this can be ruled out)
Larva was scum
Ichirin was dead
Dai doable
Marisa is Marisa
Clownpiece doable
Reisen claimed Ascetic so can't passive disable
Sanae doable maybe? would depend on what she claimed in the hood

That leaves the list as Tenshi/Kaguya/Dai/Clownpiece/Sanae for people who'd be getting disabled

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Given that scum spellcard-blocked Sanae and probably expected her to die D2, can knock her out of the list which would narrow it down further to Tenshi/Kaguya/Dai/Clownpiece

[Kaguya Houraisan]

And uhh when I write it like this, passive blocking the only not-widely-townread person that she'd bother to block seems like the play if you're setting up further lims down the line

[Aya Shameimaru]

fyi, who did Kagerou burgle from n2?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Cause my Watch was both BLOCKED N1 AND Disabled for N2.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

fyi, who did Kagerou burgle from n2?

Reisen

[Aya Shameimaru]

ughhhhh baddd for info

[Aya Shameimaru]

SECRET SECRET SECRET

i'm all a flutter!


BunBunMaru readers must know!

[Koishi Komeiji]

There is no lock mechanic.

I can target freely each night.

[Koishi Komeiji]

Hah, and my other hidden passive is I can kill thread activity at will.

[Daiyousei]

My issue here is as other players go up, I'm left staring at my Yuuka read wondering why it's still so town and if I'm just insane.

Dai, please come solve with us, I KNOW there's a player in there who really wants to dig into this game and be heard by the herd, I saw it on day one well now's your chance.

While I gather up the hood, I invite you to mull over the middle section of 4297, as a starting point if nothing else.

[Koishi Komeiji]

My issue here is as other players go up, I'm left staring at my Yuuka read wondering why it's still so town and if I'm just insane.

Dai, please come solve with us, I KNOW there's a player in there who really wants to dig into this game and be heard by the herd, I saw it on day one well now's your chance.

While I gather up the hood, I invite you to mull over the middle section of 4297, as a starting point if nothing else.

I'm actually doing this and rereading parts of day one as my homework tonight.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Oh I just realised that the format for Reisens claim also doesnt make sense since Hood Passives are present in both role PMs and Larva didn't have a hood passive so Reisens hood passive would have to take the slot of a regular passive like Clownpiece did

But then Reisen's confirmed Ascetic by Kagerou and Dai so that also doesn't make sense