I thought Marisa was being vague but that in effect they were implying some ability that could result in a clear.
But that could be anything from a doc/jail keeper to a cop investigation.
It’s only interesting to me in that I wonder if they’ll claim a guilty on me tomorrow, but those are easy to win. Or it least it makes the world very simple.
In post 4920, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
If you're ACTUALLY claiming an investigative then put that front and center because if so I'll debate if I wanna flip a coin between you and Aya tonight on the seraph-BG.
I kinda hoped to let Aya get NK'd and then reveal my role but
Yeah, I do have some sort of ability which can generate guilties and/or innos. Not saying what it is. Thankfully,
In post 4920, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
If you're ACTUALLY claiming an investigative then put that front and center because if so I'll debate if I wanna flip a coin between you and Aya tonight on the seraph-BG.
I kinda hoped to let Aya get NK'd and then reveal my role but
Yeah, I do have some sort of ability which can generate guilties and/or innos. Not saying what it is. Thankfully,
The good news is they either need to RB me and kill Marisa (which makes Marisa town) or Roleblock Marisa AND Roleblock me assuming Koishi is still BGing me passively?
Either she provides a result or we murder her, cause anyone who RBs her is gonna show up on me radar.
Which, fyi, brings me to an issue.
Yuuka you are a claimed slot who could have known Clownpiece commuted N1 and someone who I am counter claiming for all that is worth. I just.... I'm struggling not to kill you, especially with my Sanae/Yuuka S/T read still in the back of me head.
I'm gonna try and focus more on reads for a bit, so... talk to me? Break shit down to me from your PoV. What's your solve?
Okay Kaguya I tried to follow your chain of logic of why you think I can't be town with Reisen and I just have no idea why you decided that this:
In post 4817, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
Premise: Roles made by GIF follow a consistent formatting of Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Start of game Hood Passive
Is correct. Like where does this assumption come from?
Wind Sign "Wind God's Fan" [Spellcard/Night] Deflector, resolves first
[Spellcard] Make all PTs found with PT Cop ability public
[Active/Night] PT Cop
[Passive] Invisible to action investigatives
Yuuka Kazami -
Yuuka Kazami
[Spellcard] Unknown, used N1 on Clownpiece
[Spellcard] Unknown
[Active/Night] Self-watch
[Passive] Notifies anyone visiting her that she's part of the scum team
Kaguya Houraisan -
Wakasagihime
[Spellcard/Night] - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled, get 3 fish total when combined with singing
[Spellcard/Night] - Doctor a single person per two fish
[Active/Night] - Sing to get 1 fish (Resolves before my spellcards)
[Passive] - Invisible to action investigatives
[Passive] - In a hood with Daiyousei
Kagerou Imaizumi -
Marisa Kirisame
Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Juggernaut, can't be recharged
Magic Sign "Stardust Reverie" [Spellcard] Enter a hood, if it's temporary make it permanent
Burglary [Active/Night] Flavor Cop with extra effects
[Passive] Mod Confirmed to be
Marisa Kirisame
Koishi Komeiji -
Youmu Konpaku
[Spellcard/Night] Change Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard target, both Koishi and new target are bulletproof for the night, informed if anyone attacked Koishi or new target
[Spellcard] Unknown
[Active/Night] Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard, target gets Strongwilled if Koishi dies at night, target immune to all scum abilities
[Passive] Immune to Day Abilities, including vote multipliers
Eternity Larva -
Seiran
Ichirin Kumoi -
Medicine Melancholy
Daiyousei -
Daiyousei
[Spellcard] Unknown, used it to check Yuuka/Reisen/Koishi d1
[Spellcard] Unknown
[Active/Night] Redirect all actions targeting her to her target, if her target dies she dies
[Passive] Come back to life after dying
Misty Lake Resident [Passive] In a Hood with Kaguya Houraisan
Marisa Kirisame -
Remilia Scarlet
/
Flandre Scarlet
[Spellcard] Some kind of Guilty generator
[Spellcard] Unknown
[Active] Disable Passive
Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] You are in a neighborhood with Sanae Kochiya
Clownpiece -
Toyosatomimi no Miko
Reisen Udongein Inaba -
Reisen Udongein Inaba
[Spellcard] Semi-protective
[Spellcard] Offset an action by a phase
[Active] Shut down PT
[Passive] Ascetic
[Passive] In a neighborhood with Eternity Larva at night
In post 4946, Marisa Kirisame wrote:
Okay Kaguya I tried to follow your chain of logic of why you think I can't be town with Reisen and I just have no idea why you decided that this:
In post 4817, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
Premise: Roles made by GIF follow a consistent formatting of Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Start of game Hood Passive
Is correct. Like where does this assumption come from?
Take a look at the claims + flips, the only people that deviate are Sanae (who had a passive + active that let her deviate by giving her 5 spellcards and even then she'd only be able to use two), Marisa (who's missing a Passive), and Reisen (who has an extra passive)
In post 4818, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
I’m not sure how much FF would be piping in. I’m not familiar with the mod dynamic between the two.
FF recently modded a different uPick with 2 reviewers (including Syr, who is a reviewer for this game). In my understanding, the reviewers had an active role in helping design the setup. While GIF is not FF, with an overlap of 2/3 people involved in the review process and both games being uPicks I think it's safe to assume that Syr and FF had some influence on setup generation and weren't there only as feedback givers to GIF.
What does this mean? Mainly that IMO we shouldn't start writing theories based on which designer designed each role because we will 100% get it more wrong than right.
Pedit: Kaguya, quoting a few claims does not teach us anything about a mod having a set-in-stone pattern for generating roles. It just doesn't work this way in real life.
