open 910 - a series of extremely codependent relationships i {game overrr)

[BloodB0t]

I agree with your assessment but I don't really see how delaying things would hurt town. I want to see Mirrored's reaction... or is the lack of reaction the real reaction?

[Black]

To be clear I definitely don't mind waiting until closer to the deadline. I can see how me saying "push WL through" makes it seem like I want to do it immediately

[Black]

I want to hear more from mirrored because he's my #1 suspect for a WL partner. Sunflower is probably second but only because they've been subtly defending WL and that's exactly how I think scum would treat a buddy in this setup. Otherwise I don't think they've been particularly scum.y

[Sunflower]

idk if ive been subtle

why do you think WL is scum

[Black]

Mostly gut. I feel like they've been a little on edge and defensive and not really in the townie way. I also don't get the sense that they're really trying to sort anyone

[BloodB0t]

idk if ive been subtle

why do you think WL is scum

Well all you said about WL is that their response to Drew is "fairly towny", and then you said you HEALed them because your mind suddenly changed while trying to type HEAL:Drew... So I dunno if that's unsubtle. Especially in comparison to how long Drew has been antagonizing. Seems like a TRed WL might deserve a bit stronger of a defense in the face of that.

[Sunflower]

i think i also talked about how enchant having like strong takes and opinions early on and having things that they believe in is towny for them

[Sunflower]

maybe i just agreed with someone else who said that idr

[Sunflower]

i also think enchant is towny btw

i probably shouldn't clear enchant off things like having opinions they care about and pushing for reads but i also am going to do that anyway until i find a reason not to

i guess i didn't elaborate on the first one but that was what i was thinking at the time

[BloodB0t]

Oh yeah you did mention enchant in your ISO and I missed that.

[Sunflower]

oh i forgot drew was the one who originally called enchant towny for similar reasons in 83

is it silly to consider it towny that drew reversed course on that pretty quickly and decided to then push enchant even as they continued to be active? maybe

some might call it scummily inconsistent even. i don't know why my instinct is to call it towny

i guess because it feels less agenda'd, like he didn't just write off enchant in his brain as "oh well enchant is polarized and already towntelled so they can't be pushed". he continued to evaluate

[BloodB0t]

Seems like a TRed WL might deserve a bit stronger of a defense

(against Drew)

^^^ I feel like this still applies though.

[Sunflower]

maybe

i don't really feel anything i could say would change what drew's doing though nor would i especially want to

[BloodB0t]

So you're okay with a WL lim?

[Sunflower]

i think in current gamestate if WL is town then flipping them is fine and maybe even necessary for the sake of tomorrow, and if WL is scum then we win

i don't want it done early though and i would 100% of the time rather flip mirrored bc fmpov everyone else wants WL dead and so their only possible partner really is mirrored. and i think mirrored has several other possible partners so it's a better flip

[Sunflower]

im really excited for the next level mindgames people are gonna pull out in game 3 but i think for now it's fairly likely that scum play this relatively standard

[Black]

oh i forgot drew was the one who originally called enchant towny for similar reasons in 83

is it silly to consider it towny that drew reversed course on that pretty quickly and decided to then push enchant even as they continued to be active? maybe

some might call it scummily inconsistent even. i don't know why my instinct is to call it towny

i guess because it feels less agenda'd, like he didn't just write off enchant in his brain as "oh well enchant is polarized and already towntelled so they can't be pushed". he continued to evaluate

Idk why but this feels partnered with Drew

It's funny that I have a slight townlean on you but I'm finding that you make sense as a partner to quite a few slots

Paranoia is fun

[Black]

That being said, Sunflower how would you feel about a Drew fade?

[Sunflower]

i think it's hard for me to imagine heavily protesting any flip in particular at this time tbh. maybe id protest bloodb0t

drew wouldn't be my favorite choice but i find drew difficult to sort so idk

do you think he's scummy? i think you've played with him more than i have

[BloodB0t]

i think it's hard for me to imagine heavily protesting any flip in particular at this time tbh. maybe id protest bloodb0t

drew wouldn't be my favorite choice but i find drew difficult to sort so idk

do you think he's scummy? i think you've played with him more than i have

Why?

[BloodB0t]

Why protest flipping me?

[Sunflower]

cause i think you're towny

[BloodB0t]

But you also think WL is towny and you want to flip them.

[BloodB0t]

Or you're not protesting anyway

[Black]

i think it's hard for me to imagine heavily protesting any flip in particular at this time tbh. maybe id protest bloodb0t

drew wouldn't be my favorite choice but i find drew difficult to sort so idk

do you think he's scummy? i think you've played with him more than i have

I've played with Drew quite a bit but I'm still not great at reading him. I can't recall any major differences between his town and scum games. I'm not sure if that's because there aren't any or if my memory is just atrocious

I think his playstyle and availability makes him a difficult read. He's not very active and when he's here he usually just hones in on what he was talking about before which can sometimes seem scummy to me on the surface, but then I realize he does it as town so it's hard to parse