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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:19 am

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:19 am

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:sunny: ok im going back to bed
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:46 am

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In post 349, Sunflower wrote: :sunny: i'm reluctant to believe that blood/mirrored are partners. it'd be funny if they were, especially with the dogs, but the main reason I'm more reluctant on this was because of the post where mirrored asks blood to vote with them
I am not sure why that would matter
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:09 am

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In post 352, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 349, Sunflower wrote: :sunny: i'm reluctant to believe that blood/mirrored are partners. it'd be funny if they were, especially with the dogs, but the main reason I'm more reluctant on this was because of the post where mirrored asks blood to vote with them
I am not sure why that would matter
too obvious, would be better to do in scum pt
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 am

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In post 353, Sunflower wrote:
In post 352, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 349, Sunflower wrote: :sunny: i'm reluctant to believe that blood/mirrored are partners. it'd be funny if they were, especially with the dogs, but the main reason I'm more reluctant on this was because of the post where mirrored asks blood to vote with them
I am not sure why that would matter
too obvious, would be better to do in scum pt
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:31 am

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I think scum are probably sunflower and drew, not for interactions but as process of elimination.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:33 am

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In post 355, BloodB0t wrote: I think scum are probably sunflower and drew, not for interactions but as process of elimination.
What was this process you used?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:36 am

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Well I think Black and Mirrored are towny therefor the remaining are scum.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:39 am

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My reads suck
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:42 am

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Is that supposed to be counter to my town read on you?
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:49 am

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What?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:56 am

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I thought you were implying "You shouldn't be town reading me because my reads suck."
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:06 pm

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Oh no lol. I was just looking at the game and realized I have a bad grasp on it
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:39 pm

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In post 347, Sunflower wrote: :sunny:
we're in a LOVERS game, for scum it is SUBOPTIMAL to bus and therefore looking at interactions between players is a very good method of solving because there is no need for distancing where elimination requires all town members and there is no need to bus and put yourself at the risk of losing the game. on the other hand making cases on single people is EASY especially for scum to do
Two scumpartners can SR each other all they want as long as they don't actually vote each other. Looking for partners by POE based on reads on each other is a flimsy strategy. My philosophy is to find a few scummy players first and then investigate their possible partnerships-using multiple veins of evidence rather than just the current reads on each other-rather than trying to pick out partnerships from all possible players.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:56 pm

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I want to sleep, but some quick opinions on potential scumteams. A Sun/Blood team doesn't seem likely considering the progression of Sun's reads on Blood - I'm not sure, though, considering that Sun's gradual flip might be coordinated for all how arbitrary it seems. It definitely feels forced, but Sun could have done the same to a town Blood too to have a potential push besides me in VoLo.

Blood/Drew is similar in that there is suspicion between them, but this isn't enough to clear them (especially in light of what I said last post).

Sun/Drew fits the bill of two players who TR each other. Drew is the towniest player to Sun (without Sun hard TRing him), while IIRC (and after a quick look through the ISO) Drew hasn't read Sun beyond any potential passing comments. Based on this, I'd want to say this is the likeliest scumteam under a simple analysis, but I do remember a series of interactions, most infamously about the dumbtells, that makes me hesitant to decide here that this is the scumteam, however strong my read feels now after a bit of thought.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:58 pm

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Just read the last paragraph and wanted to clarify. Honestly, saying nothing about your partner or not having them in your SRs (everyone has at least 2 suspects) is of similar effect to TRing in the context of SvS.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:14 am

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In post 363, mirrored wrote:
In post 347, Sunflower wrote: :sunny:
we're in a LOVERS game, for scum it is SUBOPTIMAL to bus and therefore looking at interactions between players is a very good method of solving because there is no need for distancing where elimination requires all town members and there is no need to bus and put yourself at the risk of losing the game. on the other hand making cases on single people is EASY especially for scum to do
Two scumpartners can SR each other all they want as long as they don't actually vote each other. Looking for partners by POE based on reads on each other is a flimsy strategy. My philosophy is to find a few scummy players first and then investigate their possible partnerships-using multiple veins of evidence rather than just the current reads on each other-rather than trying to pick out partnerships from all possible players.
this is kind of how associatives work, yes
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:24 am

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Mirrored what is your read on me
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:52 am

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In post 364, mirrored wrote: I want to sleep, but some quick opinions on potential scumteams. A Sun/Blood team doesn't seem likely considering the progression of Sun's reads on Blood - I'm not sure, though, considering that Sun's gradual flip might be coordinated for all how arbitrary it seems. It definitely feels forced, but Sun could have done the same to a town Blood too to have a potential push besides me in VoLo.

Blood/Drew is similar in that there is suspicion between them, but this isn't enough to clear them (especially in light of what I said last post).

Sun/Drew fits the bill of two players who TR each other. Drew is the towniest player to Sun (without Sun hard TRing him), while IIRC (and after a quick look through the ISO) Drew hasn't read Sun beyond any potential passing comments. Based on this, I'd want to say this is the likeliest scumteam under a simple analysis, but I do remember a series of interactions, most infamously about the dumbtells, that makes me hesitant to decide here that this is the scumteam, however strong my read feels now after a bit of thought.
Why are you saying that I town read Sun, and then say I don't have a read on them.

And why no mention of Black? Is she your too town read?
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:38 pm

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day ends in 15 hours y'all

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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:41 pm

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i want mirrored to vote first ideally

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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:41 pm

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but they'll probably vote us so i guess maybe we could just vote them

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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:42 pm

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In post 369, Sunflower wrote: day ends in 15 hours y'all

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Well shit, I will be around for the next few hours at the very least....but not at deadline

Who are we think buddy? Err, not buddy

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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:43 pm

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i think that probably means we lose unless it's exactly blood/mirrored, and black/drew both vote mirrored

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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:45 pm

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which seems... kinda reasonable to me but maybe a little too convenient that the three slots i've played with before would be town

it doesn't usually line up like that even though it's often a tempting answer

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