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[Alianna]

3.07

Votecount 3.07

Snow2697 (E-2): Thomith, Gypyx, Snow2697, geraintm
Naerys (1): Psyche
Gypyx (1): Random Nurse
Psyche (1): Titus

Not Voting (4): Oblivion, Naerys, KayJayQueue, Lycanfire

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-17 13:15:36).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Random Nurse]

As Town don't self-vote.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

[Psyche]

hey
i know it's unfair to ask
and yall are in the middle of something
but could i get a few more days to develop and share a take on the game before a vote happens?

i think this would serve two goals:
1) it would help people sort me, maybe improving night action choices and players' confidence in their own votes
2) i might have something useful to say!

in particular, these last few pages convince me that i can sort gypyx/snow this game.

even if i'm wrong or unconvincing when i try, wouldn't it help you sort me later if i did commit to a stance on these slots you're maybe limming between today?

[Psyche]

72 hours is absolute latest id have some stances worth anything

[Oblivion]

72 hours is absolute latest id have some stances worth anything

It would rather see your reads as well since you're just town. Also, honestly it does not wish to kill Snow.

[Gypyx]

72 hours is absolute latest id have some stances worth anything

It would rather see your reads as well since you're just town. Also, honestly it does not wish to kill Snow.

we're really on 2 separate trajectories huh

[Snow2697]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

Why so? I am town, but I am ready to go away today with Gypyx-Thomith to follow.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

Why so? I am town, but I am ready to go away today with Gypyx-Thomith to follow.

Self-voting is bad play unless you're Town. Make Scum work for their mis-lim.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

Why so? I am town, but I am ready to go away today with Gypyx-Thomith to follow.

Self-voting is bad play unless you're Town. Make Scum work for their mis-lim.

*unless you're Scum.

[Snow2697]

May be you are right. But I think that Gypyx-Thomith went too far in trying to lim me without reason, and I went to far fighting them back.

[Lycanfire]

In your experience Snow, does this concept of "elim person A and if it doesn't work out, elim person B" thing ever happen?

[Lycanfire]

Honestly, I don’t even know anymore. I’m trying not to give up but I feel like I have no idea what’s happening and that all my reads are shit. I don’t think I’ve added one useful piece of information to this game at all. I think I bit off more than I could chew with a large size game and I hate that I’m making excuses instead of rereading and re-developing my reads. And I have no idea what to think now about this snow v gypyx stuff.

You have to start somewhere to get anywhere. You could look at players ISOs and tune into a quote exchange someone had and look further into the context, or base it around vote counts in the combined mod ISO. You could pick a page and just start reading.

If you don't have anything now, it doesn't mean you won't have scumreads you find acceptable later on. If you don't get to that point I can assure you that if you're town you're forfeiting your ability to think for yourself, and that's dangerous if you get led by scum. Similarly, you'll gain suspicion of your own for perceived coasting.

[Gypyx]

May be you are right. But I think that Gypyx-Thomith went too far in trying to lim me without reason, and I went to far fighting them back.

Yes but why am i scum instead of a misguided townie

[Naerys]

VOTE: gypyx

[Naerys]

May be you are right. But I think that Gypyx-Thomith went too far in trying to lim me without reason, and I went to far fighting them back.

Yes but why am i scum instead of a misguided townie

This doesnt feel right to me, feels like gypyx is fishing for ppl’s reads of her so she could shift her play accordingly

[Gypyx]

...

Do you really think that in the world where i'm scum my biggest question mark is if snow scumreads me?

Like

Snow "i've been pushing Gypyx since the start of day 3" 2697

that's the guy we're talking about?

My question was rhetorical, asking him to reconsider why he's even scumreading me

[Gypyx]

Haters hate to see a woman girlbossing her way to winning a game of mafia

Btw this was a serious post, y'all really need to scumread me on better grounds cause that's not it

[Snow2697]

In your experience Snow, does this concept of "elim person A and if it doesn't work out, elim person B" thing ever happen?

In classic face-to-face mafia yes, this is a must or at least standard practice in some situations.

In online mafia have not seen it before. But here there is merit IMO. You cannot do weird things on D1 ("I was busy"), self-proclaim townblock on D2 with a counterwagon against a town ("my vote was just parked on you") and then claim town leadership, attack my town slot without reasons and without responsibility. "If we are wrong with Snow, we promise not to look into the hood". So, the town cannot look at you as scums? No, I will not allow you to have it this way.

[Lycanfire]

In online mafia have not seen it before. But here there is merit IMO. You cannot do weird things on D1 ("I was busy"), self-proclaim townblock on D2 with a counterwagon against a town ("my vote was just parked on you") and then claim town leadership, attack my town slot without reasons and without responsibility.

"If we are wrong with Snow, we promise not to look into the hood". So, the town cannot look at you as scums? No, I will not allow you to have it this way.

Okay, that's a good point. You have reasons to scumread Gypyx, but is there anything that towntells her?

[Gypyx]

Once again snow with the taking stuff out of context to be able to create a scumread on me

people were afraid of chain-limming into the hood again and again and it being all town save for ranger, i was saying that we were in fact not doing that and now you're phrasing it as me wanting to be left alone in the event that you flip town

you're also blowing this "counterwagon" way out of proportion, yes i've went on you, but dave was my first vote and it was my last one, it's what matters in the end

[Lycanfire]

i see a couple of you online but unfortunately it's 1:30AM for me.

[Random Nurse]

I do think Gypyx would be the optimal lim today, and if Gypyx is Scum then Thomith is toast.

[Thomith]

I do think Gypyx would be the optimal lim today, and if Gypyx is Scum then Thomith is toast.

Gypyx is town, so it would be a waste of an execution.

Should have time later today after work to catch up on everything.

[Gypyx]

I do think Gypyx would be the optimal lim today, and if Gypyx is Scum then Thomith is toast.

Does part of your confidence on scum!me come from thinking me being scum with thom is like a 2 for 1 deal