Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

VOTE: Yuuka

I did visit Yukka. Got feedback that they're scum.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Hahahaha

[Yuuka Kazami]

Well, I’m happy to wait to see if the team is Kaguya, Reisen and leave this out of my hands.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why do you think you received a message saying I was scum? You seemed careful of unexplained information yesterday. Today you’re less cautious, why?

[Yuuka Kazami]

This is melo you know, you’re supposed to be more cautious. Not less.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Moving on, I’m pretty much 50/50 on Kage/Kaguya.

Kaguya and Kagerou’s reactions yesterday are difficult for me to interpret.
Kaguya did not stop to consider why Marisa made the error of not speed eliminating. They were a very real option of who Marisa would dictate the elimination to if they wanted. It was goal directed behavior.

Kagerou’s play is an issue in that, in the context of the setting Marisa had just popped a consequence free elimination and they chose to wait, when Marisa if in error, had just given town an opportunity that could not be missed and they just seemed non-plussed. Which came off as informed.

Their play right now doesn’t make sense compared to their play yesterday. Also, a lot of criticism their way and they still haven’t read back.

Then again, I’m not sure why anyone would actually listen to criticism. It just doesn’t seem to be a human strength. But they did say “fair” to kaguya and then did nothing with that so.

Instinctually I don’t think they’re partners. But that needs a serious review

[Yuuka Kazami]

The more I think about it the less sense Kagerou makes with their vote here. This is easily the kind of thing someone who was cautious yesterday would have found suspicious today.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Then again they just posted and then I immediately replied and they haven’t responded which means either massive case income or one of those lovely reaction tests that won’t really affect my perception of them.

[Yuuka Kazami]

But I *am* much more conflicted on them than I was yesterday.
Simply because of Kaguya’s goal directed behavior yesterday.

It was, very much, a clean opportunity they took and largely blameless. The position is just too clean for me not to take it seriously

[Yuuka Kazami]

*blink* they’re either anon or they logged out.

Curse melo and people’s proactivity and distracting distractions during the make or break solving portion of the game.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Gunna check back in, in 5 hours I suppose.
And then find out if Kagerou is scum or not.

[Yuuka Kazami]

*spins*

Fuck this is game is out of my hands now.
Hate it.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Why do you think you received a message saying I was scum? You seemed careful of unexplained information yesterday. Today you’re less cautious, why?

Because I got a message stating you're scum.

I'm less cautious because the mod told me you're scum.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Really.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Hello everybody

I have an ability that, when I’m visited by anyone they’re notified that I’m part of the scum team. Even non-investigative roles.

I have an additional power that appears insidious but is not.

I’m neither scum nor 3p.

Thanks.

This was my first post this game.

Not only that, but I just plain don’t believe you think that.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Anyone, literally anyone, would know that if your ability does not have an investigative than someone else is either responsible for the result or the player themselves has something that caused it.

Except no one claimed an ability that would provide you a result.

Waiting for someone to come in and confirm that without voting, then saying “oh hey by the way if anyone has a result that was me, it’s real please kill them”

And then you know, considering whether in melo you can believe them. Is a normal consideration.

…probably(?)

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

UNVOTE: Yuuka

I forgot

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’m not sure what to say to that. I just wanna get a solve out this day phase and hit scum. Or get owned. But losing can also be fun. Painful. But fun.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’m not sure how to interpret Reisen’s am I dead? Post. I see that Marisa voted them then popped their ability so I get where they’re coming from. From that angle

I’m not sure if that’s the natural town response to that, since a town’s person usually would throw suspicion somewhere if they weren’t sure or struggle in some manner, perhaps with a read’s list or something. I think there may be an angle of possible relief and vague amusement in their fingers crossed post. But that’s reading into them, when it’s just not really there.

[Yuuka Kazami]

UNVOTE: Yuuka

I forgot

Legit struggling with you this game.
Let’s try it your way.
Kaguya had their turn.
What would you like to talk about?
And how would you like me to talk about it?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’m going to solve in the interim but I can also hold a conversation with you.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Aya what do you need from me for you to narrow your pool from Yuuka, Kagerou, Kaguya, Reisen. To that minus me?

You had already asked me to show that I’m town, but I don’t really think I succeeded there.

I am aware of what Koushi said at the end of the day phase. They were wrong and, well, yeah I’m sure you realize what happened there.

For those at home that might have missed what happened yesterday.

I said I blew my spell card N1.
Marisa either did not read those posts, reaction tested and was going to withdraw or alter the wording later, or they didn’t read their role/ forgoteither due to illness or something else.

They did not communicate that they had a vote multiplier before popping it, which scared both town and scum(or scum had a delayed rxn if team is kage/Reisen). They crashed due to illness and so couldn’t clarify that they had not made a mistake to force an elimination through.

Due to the time component it was rushed though, whether it actually made sense to assume Marisa made a mistake due to illness is hard to know from town or scum standpoint.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If you guys wanna popcorn, popcorn.

In general, rule of thumb here is to have Aya dictate the process, there was no real empirical doubt, but Koishi’s flip does settle the matter.

I don't think there's much to popcorn here. The claims here will just be:

• Kagerou Burglarized you
  
• You Self-Watched
  
• I got fish
  
• Reisen either slept or used the self-targetizer on me

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

So I have 2 pieces of information, kind of. Kaguya targeted themselves last night. Doesn’t make them not!scum it just makes them not the one performing nightkills.

This also means either scum can’t roleblock anymore OR kaguya is the roleblocker and blocked themselves.

I haven’t looked back on the claims list but I think it can be narrowed down since multiple spell cards can’t be used the same night. Actives can be used with spell cards though.

Mech mommy tell me what it means.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Oh hi there.