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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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So, you’re saying that you’re looking at who you’re town reading for reasons to change your mind?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Or the opposite.
Loopy.
Why would you not feel bad about voting Kaguya?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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I’m less worried about your read of me than I probably should be. Tbh.In post 5874, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
Cuz I could easily vote kaguya and not feel that bad about it. Also kinda think kagerou is just town. So I guess I’m looking for a reason to townread you via kagerou in a way? If I’m wrong that’s where I’m wrong so that’s where my focus is.In post 5873, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Why are you looking at Kagerou first Reisen?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Okay, so you’re checking to make sure it’s not kagerou/Kaguya(?).Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I am checking for that world too tbh Yuuka.-
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It's not a chess match metaphor, it's a natural human move vs unnatural engine move metaphorIn post 5861, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: I don't like viewing this as a chess match here. There's deduction but we should not act like a chess match in melo/elo without solid information. Everyone should be considered.-
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When the anti-fishing is anti-fishing their own role no not reallyIn post 5866, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: - Anti-fishing town indicative-
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Help me bus KagerouIn post 5879, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I am checking for that world too tbh Yuuka.-
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In post 5874, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
Cuz I could easily vote kaguya and not feel that bad about it. Also kinda think kagerou is just town. So I guess I’m looking for a reason to townread you via kagerou in a way? If I’m wrong that’s where I’m wrong so that’s where my focus is.In post 5873, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Why are you looking at Kagerou first Reisen?In post 5831, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Why am I scum-
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Initial post got lost. : X.In post 5879, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I am checking for that world too tbh Yuuka.
Generally it’s a possibility. On the surface I don’t really see it, because just as a rule of thumb it makes more sense for Kaguya to try to kill Kagerou here and now. I see Reisen:Kaguya as most likely in terms of scum pairings. While I struggle to see Kagerou as paired with anyone.
I guess kagerou is heading my way? Maybe, I’m not sure if they meant to say it, but they heavily implied they wouldn’t post much today and would try in elo. Which, solo, would not be an option for them.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Kaguya Houraisan Goon
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Oh I'm actually a viable lim today here.
Annoying cause in that case winning is only easy if Kagerou is town-
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Kaguya Houraisan Goon
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Wow this is actually really fucking annoying
If Kagerou is town I have to find her and that's probably not happening
If Reisen is town she has to find me and that's probably not happening
If Yuuka is town she needs to find the Reisen/Kagerou ties and that feels a lot iffier right now than it was earlier-
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Kagerou can you case the Yuuka/Reisen world?
Yuuka why isn't Kagerou/Reisen a thing?
Reisen why am I scum?-
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Kagerou Imaizumi Goon
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Kaguya, if you're town, there's something that should give you pause on me. Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?
You talk a lot about strategic moves and that one doesn't make sense.
It also doesn't make sense not to resort Riesen here.
I'm agreeing with Yuuka as of now, but far from locked in. Yuuka/Riesen can also be a thing. Tbh, I can see Reisen with anyone.awoooo !-
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Kagerou Imaizumi Goon
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I'm also concerned by the lack of consideration of Marisa here minorly.awoooo !-
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I townread Dai pretty heavily, what was even the case there? Actually probably doesn't matter compared to how likely Dai was to getting limmed. I'm phoneposting rn, what were the Dai stances before the shot?In post 5888, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?-
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I don't get what this meansIn post 5889, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: I'm also concerned by the lack of consideration of Marisa here minorly.-
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Scratch that last one. Marisa's dead.awoooo !-
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Dai fmpov had none and all the dead suspected Dai so maybe I'm not the best judge. I didn't hear a single reason to townread Dai.In post 5890, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I townread Dai pretty heavily, what was even the case there? Actually probably doesn't matter compared to how likely Dai was to getting limmed. I'm phoneposting rn, what were the Dai stances before the shot?In post 5888, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?
I think Dai was killed to frame me tbh rather than Dai's reads.awoooo !-
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Kaguya Houraisan Goon
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The thing that's tricky about the Dai shot is that scum would know Marisa was a town Flandre. Frandre has the spellcards- Forbidden Barrage "Catadioptric"
- Q.E.D. "Ripples of 495 Years"
In that case the Dai kill would seem to be a standard "Dai is townread and Aya/Koishi are off limits, make the kill there" type shot-
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Though this would still point to whoever Marisa scumread being scum, which would be Yuuka/Reisen?-
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As in what were peoples stances on Dai, not the other way aroundIn post 5893, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
Dai fmpov had none and all the dead suspected Dai so maybe I'm not the best judge. I didn't hear a single reason to townread Dai.In post 5890, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I townread Dai pretty heavily, what was even the case there? Actually probably doesn't matter compared to how likely Dai was to getting limmed. I'm phoneposting rn, what were the Dai stances before the shot?In post 5888, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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It was you/Reisen.In post 5895, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Though this would still point to whoever Marisa scumread being scum, which would be Yuuka/Reisen?
I was third.
I think.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Already sunk your credibility tbh.In post 5888, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Kaguya, if you're town, there's something that should give you pause on me. Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?
You talk a lot about strategic moves and that one doesn't make sense.
It also doesn't make sense not to resort Riesen here.
I'm agreeing with Yuuka as of now, but far from locked in. Yuuka/Riesen can also be a thing. Tbh, I can see Reisen with anyone.
But yes, it did undercut you.
I’m not sure if that was a benefit or not.
I didn’t benefit from it simply because I’m town.
It did benefit Kaguya though.
But the scum team also held out on killing Koushi/Aya for awhile.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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To be fair, if you don’t read the thread you will not hear any arguments, period.In post 5893, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
Dai fmpov had none and all the dead suspected Dai so maybe I'm not the best judge. I didn't hear a single reason to townread Dai.In post 5890, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I townread Dai pretty heavily, what was even the case there? Actually probably doesn't matter compared to how likely Dai was to getting limmed. I'm phoneposting rn, what were the Dai stances before the shot?In post 5888, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Dai had a mound of evidence against them (even though Dai was town). Why would scum!me shoot my main suspect with one elimination to go effectively ruining my credibility?
I think Dai was killed to frame me tbh rather than Dai's reads.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!
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