Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Kagerou:
1. Delegating responsibility to stop a wagon is, in those circumstances, largely indistinguishable from "I could have totally stopped them, but, as scum, why would I interrupt the town when they're making a mistake? oh, role so shiny"
2. Please respond to why forgetting my role made your play more logical in a melo situation.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Nobody thinks you're scum partners with Aya.

Town….town partners.

There are 3 town alive.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Nobody thinks you're town partners with Aya either. :3

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Reisen, why haven't you commented on the thematic elements/roles this game much?
You're a touhou fan, right?

Nope, I’m aware of touhou, never played. But I’ve seen reisen before in a show. That’s where my knowledge ends.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen, why haven't you commented on the thematic elements/roles this game much?
You're a touhou fan, right?

Nope, I’m aware of touhou, never played. But I’ve seen reisen before in a show. That’s where my knowledge ends.

Oh.
Opps. Ah well.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Hard to know from their perspective, in reality, just based on your posts this day phase, I'd say I'd be easier to convince than you. This is mainly because while I've been kind of panic posting about topics or issues in their play that concern me, you've just kind of been silo'd up and saying, essentially, "yep, Kaguya looks like scum to me"
There's not much room to argue with that. I'm engaging in a way you aren't they asked you 3 times to case them before you responded.
Like, what is scum Kaguya going to do with that?

Fair, I’m not likely to readjust.

[Yuuka Kazami]

What was the point you were trying to make by asking me that question?
What did you think I'd say?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Kaguya, I’m free tomorrow, I saw you wanted some real time interaction and I’ll meet you halfway if you need a specific time window.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

What was the point you were trying to make by asking me that question?
What did you think I'd say?

It was commentary on what kaguya!scums win route looks like.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Specifics, please. Not generalities. What were you, precisely, trying to get at?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Specifics, please. Not generalities. What were you, precisely, trying to get at?

That if you are town, kaguya needs a slot they can manipulate and a pivot.

So i think kaguya was trying to make Marisa and myself a 1v1 mechanically. Then backed out with the flavor stuff. Marisa made it a 1v1 with you instead I guess. Then kaguya comes in today to avoid me mostly. I’d already spoken about being in the air about you/kaguya having one. So the assumption coming into the day is there is wiggle room with me.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Even more specifically if you’re the other townie think they need to get into your head vs a lim option that’s relatively easy to push through. Barring a paranoia vote scenario.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

@Kagerou:
1. Delegating responsibility to stop a wagon is, in those circumstances, largely indistinguishable from "I could have totally stopped them, but, as scum, why would I interrupt the town when they're making a mistake? oh, role so shiny"
2. Please respond to why forgetting my role made your play more logical in a melo situation.

1. You can't stop a freight train you don't expect to come.
2. If you forget you notify each visitor is scum, then you see guilty, vote guilty.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

For the record, I am going along with Aya decides the lim. I'm not sure it's the best.

Aya picks one of us to vote first instead. That's a 50% chance to hit scum. Then, even if wrong, a town would have a 2/3 chance of hitting scum at random.

Once the 1 v 1 is declared, then Aya picks the lim with input.

[Yuuka Kazami]

No.
You get a guilty result with no explanation in melo, you do not vote guilty.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Even more specifically if you’re the other townie think they need to get into your head vs a lim option that’s relatively easy to push through. Barring a paranoia vote scenario.

Between you and Kagerou, which do you think is an easier lim to push through

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Think it’s more of an unknown. Plus the added wrinkle of one side is already on board with the other being town. I don’t think it would be easier to navigate.

I think you would be harder to lim for scum than either of me or kagerou but me and kagerou in 3p together is a tougher situation.

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Kagerou:
1. Delegating responsibility to stop a wagon is, in those circumstances, largely indistinguishable from "I could have totally stopped them, but, as scum, why would I interrupt the town when they're making a mistake? oh, role so shiny"
2. Please respond to why forgetting my role made your play more logical in a melo situation.

1. You can't stop a freight train you don't expect to come.
2. If you forget you notify each visitor is scum, then you see guilty, vote guilty.

Your positioning and reasoning yesterday and the one you took this day is the purest kind of contradiction.

Caution and optimal play in a lower stakes game state to non-optimal play and recklessness in a higher stakes game state.
You just didn't see it coming with Kaguya when they were rushing the elimination through with basic marketing techniques.
and your excuse for not intervening is the equivalent of saying you need to use the restroom during a pivotal moment.

No. I don't think so.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen, why haven't you commented on the thematic elements/roles this game much?
You're a touhou fan, right?

Nope, I’m aware of touhou, never played. But I’ve seen reisen before in a show. That’s where my knowledge ends.

Didn't you have to list out multiple touhou characters when signing up?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Reisen, why haven't you commented on the thematic elements/roles this game much?
You're a touhou fan, right?

Nope, I’m aware of touhou, never played. But I’ve seen reisen before in a show. That’s where my knowledge ends.

Didn't you have to list out multiple touhou characters when signing up?

Yep. I went to the wiki and picked characters I thought were cool. So I learned a little bit I guess.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You guess?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I had issue with you playing positionally before and it hasn’t changed now that you’re openly admitting to playing positionally.

Why is being openly positional scum indicative

[Kaguya Houraisan]

What was the point you were trying to make by asking me that question?
What did you think I'd say?

It was commentary on what kaguya!scums win route looks like.

If I'm scum in your world my win route is really easy: call it a Kagerou/Reisen game, appease Aya, and let her kill you here

[Kaguya Houraisan]

For the record, I am going along with Aya decides the lim. I'm not sure it's the best.

Aya picks one of us to vote first instead. That's a 50% chance to hit scum. Then, even if wrong, a town would have a 2/3 chance of hitting scum at random.

Once the 1 v 1 is declared, then Aya picks the lim with input.

I'm down with this

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kaguya, I’m free tomorrow, I saw you wanted some real time interaction and I’ll meet you halfway if you need a specific time window.

I'm on vacation so I don't really have any uninterrupted mafia time outside of early mornings is the problem