In post 2476, StraightFlush wrote:
Can you not apply that same logic to Kay? I find it odd that you'd just brush off HEM's concerns about her pocketing you and just look at me instead.
The logic about the kill? That doesn’t apply to anybody except Zach
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2476, StraightFlush wrote:
Can you not apply that same logic to Kay? I find it odd that you'd just brush off HEM's concerns about her pocketing you and just look at me instead.
The logic about the kill? That doesn’t apply to anybody except Zach
No I mean the logic about pocketing attempts. Does it not make sense for me to buddy up to you when I townread you even before you were greenchecked, and want to show you I'm town to make sure we get it right at eLo?
Maybe we look at Day 1 instead. Why would I cripple myself by tunneling on skitter Day ONE? I had no idea what PRs are in play and what? The theory is I think I’m good enough to solo a game without knowing what town is working with which could’ve lost here game day 2? Tell me how that makes sense. Go read any game of mine, scum or town. I am not a confident player. I’m stubborn but not confident. There’s no way I’d willingly choose to get rid of my partner like that. I’m town and I happened to be right about skitter because of a meta read on halfasleep I didn’t want to let go of.
it's a coin flip for me, really. i want to determine who gets the most value out of a {KJQ, StraightFlush, HEM} pool, but it really isn't that obvious.
I really think Kay is town here, I’m probably only comfortable with Flush here. I’ve scumread them throughout the game, I feel like the reasons to tr the others are too strong to doubt outside of elo.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
I could reasonably say quite literally all of the things that Kay just said above, they all apply. The only difference is she's advantaged due to having a supply of previous games for evidence.
Say it with me, folks: fuck rule 6.
Pedit: HEM you're making me picture a 3-sided coin now and it's kinda cursed
In post 2479, KayJayQueue wrote:
I think I’m good enough to solo a game without knowing what town is working with which could’ve lost here game day 2
No, the theory is that your team felt that it was the best move. Unfortuntaely, it's entirely possible that you had a day 1 early soft bus that developed into a hard bus when skitter/snivy became too much of a liability and you had a very good position. and if you're staking on a metaread that you wouldn't be confident, then i'd say it felt as if you were pretty confident on skitter/snivy's wagon. entirely possible.
P-edit: Your geometry is off because I'm town, so it's really just between the two of you.
In post 2482, StraightFlush wrote:
I could reasonably say quite literally all of the things that Kay just said above, they all apply. The only difference is she's advantaged due to having a supply of previous games for evidence.
Say it with me, folks: fuck rule 6.
Pedit: HEM you're making me picture a 3-sided coin now and it's kinda cursed
You didn’t start the wagon on scum. I did. I pushed it for a week and then you jumped on. So you can’t say we’re the same. It is obvious at this point because of clears that scum did bus. Who is most likely to bus? Probably one of the last votes. Not the annoying one whining about the lim for a week (hint: that’s me)
JV, can you please spend more time with me here? I don't want zach hammering because I want to spend more time with him too. Let's take a breather and let things cool off. Sleep it off for three more days at least.
i think this day is just really determining if zach can be ruled out, because if we can line up SF and KJQ in any order then we win.
Im genuinely pretty confident Zach is cleared here. I asked kay/flush that question because scum NEEDS zach in the pool. Kays response to them staying as an option is fine, flushs seems off. I can explain later I’m barely keeping my eyes open
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2482, StraightFlush wrote:
I could reasonably say quite literally all of the things that Kay just said above, they all apply. The only difference is she's advantaged due to having a supply of previous games for evidence.
Say it with me, folks: fuck rule 6.
Pedit: HEM you're making me picture a 3-sided coin now and it's kinda cursed
You didn’t start the wagon on scum. I did. I pushed it for a week and then you jumped on. So you can’t say we’re the same. It is obvious at this point because of clears that scum did bus. Who is most likely to bus? Probably one of the last votes. Not the annoying one whining about the lim for a week (hint: that’s me)
That's quite an understatement of my involvement in the wagon, after the subs came in I was all over that shit because I hate subs and was happy to see snivy go before he had an outsize impact on the game (sadly that didn't happen). I wouldn't put it past you at all to hard-bus to that extent, and it bears mentioning that zach was on the wagon as well in his usual noncommittal way.
In post 2494, KayJayQueue wrote:
I haven’t taken Zach out of the picture but it’s looking like today is me vs you. So today it’s you. If we’re wrong, it’s Zach tomorrow and we win.
If by "we" you mean you and snivy, then yes, you'll win. Glad we're on the same page here.
Also if it were as strict a 1v1 as you're looking for here, HEM would've tried to hammer me when he had the chance.
In post 2494, KayJayQueue wrote:
I haven’t taken Zach out of the picture but it’s looking like today is me vs you. So today it’s you. If we’re wrong, it’s Zach tomorrow and we win.
If by "we" you mean you and snivy, then yes, you'll win. Glad we're on the same page here.
took a shower before bed after a long day of work. still, i can see both as possible. and i have not decided on ruling out zach. I'm going to articulate all my points for or against each slot and treat this as ELo where I can bounce off a confirmed town. can we do that JV? i think that's the best way to play this.
In post 2461, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Flush/Kay/Zach, would you please answer me: Would you have known that Purple was sure to be FN based on Ketchup's vanilla flip?
I wasn't 100% certain but yes I thought Purple was FN
So my thoughts on the night kill are that scum probably assumed that Jackson would track me and were okay with it, which would clear me and make me available for... something. What thing, I don't know. Or am I assuming too much in thinking that scum would think that Jackson was going to track me? Am I being an egomaniac? Maybe, but if that was the case then scum was fine with me being clear, but I can't really figure out whether KJQ or StraightFlush would benefit more from that. I did say last day that I was considering purple or ketchup/StraightFlush, and with two of them dead it only leaves StraightFlush, which KJQ benefits more from. Am I totally off base with this line of thinking? Or am I looking in the wrong place for even thinking about it at all?