Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I tried to tell you that it would be a problem if you did not try to read Reisen this day phase.

Find me an hour Reisen is online and I'll find you a Reisen read

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Find me an hour Reisen is online and I'll find you a Reisen read

This is annoyingly well played if this is intentional btw

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I tried to tell you that it would be a problem if you did not try to read Reisen this day phase.

So yeah, if they flip scum. You’re going to have to live with that choice.

If not, congrats on your win! You played well.

Independent of any partner solves (probably not the right words) like what's happening here, what's your readslist look like right now

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Also Aya ignoring the Larva stuff what's your readslist look like

[Yuuka Kazami]

Aya’s pointing out those Larvae reads tipped the balance some. They really do have a point and I’m not sure Larvae has the guts to make that “I’m frustrated” post as a red herring. It seems more likely they weren’t thinking than that they were willing to risk their position intentionally in case they flipped later.

I still can’t handle Kagerou and how they’ve played this day phase not to mention their seeming, inconsistency or unwillingness to engage in a topic for more than a post or two before seemingly pretending it doesn’t exist anymore.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Aya’s pointing out those Larvae reads tipped the balance some.

So what's the readslist look like

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen. Scum.

Kaguya = Kagerou.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen. Scum.

Kaguya = Kagerou.

Yep!

That feels wrong but I don't have time to figure out why

Gonna try to put this into words. If you think Reisen is always scum here and that Reisen flipping scum tips the scales towards me flipping scum then how is it possible for Kagerou and I to be in the same tier here

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'll be around later but you're falling for the same trap I normally do where you make a partner read and locktown off of it then ignore the shit they do later that should be ringing alarm bells (I've done this

a lot

).

I feel like I'm making a similar mistake with Yuuka's D3 livechatting and I kinda wanna reassess

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yeah, you do you.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Like your play towards the second half of the phase feels positional (If Kagerou flips then you get to kill Reisen with me, if Reisen flips you get to kill me with Kagerou) and I wanna check if I'm going crazy or not

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yeah, you do you.

Reisen. Scum.

Kaguya = Kagerou.

Yep!

That feels wrong but I don't have time to figure out why

Gonna try to put this into words. If you think Reisen is always scum here and that Reisen flipping scum tips the scales towards me flipping scum then how is it possible for Kagerou and I to be in the same tier here

Can you answer this?

[Yuuka Kazami]

You gunna engage the substance of those associative posts or only barely touch the edge of the wings on them?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Like your play towards the second half of the phase feels positional (If Kagerou flips then you get to kill Reisen with me, if Reisen flips you get to kill me with Kagerou) and I wanna check if I'm going crazy or not

It’s called algorithimic play and it’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Wait, what.

No. If Reisen flips town I don’t get to kill either of you. Game’s over.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

You gunna engage the substance of those associative posts or only barely touch the edge of the wings on them?

Properly engaging would require me to be able to check VCs and that'd have to wait until I'm back from V/LA on the 23rd

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Wait, what.

No. If Reisen flips town I don’t get to kill either of you. Game’s over.

I'm looking at the game from a bus perspective, you're positioned in a way that lets you endgame regardless of what happens

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Obviously if we flip the other townie here that also works out for scum you

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, because I don’t wanna die and lose the game which 100% happens today or tomorrow if I die.

You’ve used this perspective yourself. I didn’t challenge you much on it because I understood the perspective.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Aya also has a reeval of me in the works. So it’s entirely possible I don’t end up in this position tomorrow.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yes, because I don’t wanna die and lose the game which 100% happens today or tomorrow if I die.

You’ve used this perspective yourself. I didn’t challenge you much on it because I understood the perspective.

There's a difference though: the stuff I'm doing still had a consistent solve of Yuuka Town/Kagerou scum/Reisen POE scum. Your solve changes on flips in such a way that's framed to be an algo solve that also simultaneously has you positioned to vote someones biggest scumread at all times. That's where the positional feeling is coming from

[Yuuka Kazami]

Huh?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Huh?

I've been pretty clear that my solve is Kagerou/Reisen, my open positionalness is based on maximizing the likelyhood that this solve goes through

You don't have a set in stone townie, your positionalness is based on maximizing the chances that Yuuka doesn't go through

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, that's my playstyle, you found it.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Huh?

I've been pretty clear that my solve is Kagerou/Reisen, my open positionalness is based on maximizing the likelyhood that this solve goes through

You don't have a set in stone townie, your positionalness is based on maximizing the chances that Yuuka doesn't go through

The first recognises that both townies have to not die to win, the second does not