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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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I wasn't against it yesterday. I wasn't arguing we shouldn't do it, I genuinely just didn't/don't know if it was beneficial or not.In post 2572, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2570, Thomith wrote:
This is me genuinely asking, as I'm still relearning the game again - last time in a game we massclaimed the day before ELo (which would potentially be today i think?).In post 2568, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2564, Gypyx wrote: we also have half the players who are already claimed now
let's do the other half
And that's still full of shit.
We should have mass-claimed yesterday. We'd have more claims and Scum would be locked into their claims.
Is this not the optimal time to mass claim? Why would it have been more beneficial yesterday than today? Are scum not also locked into their claims if we claim today?
Why were you so against it yesterday?
It would have been better to massclaim earlier because we'd have more information, and Scum would have less wiggle room to squirm away.thomith could be a court jester
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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Whether they could actually think they're doing anything useful.In post 2567, Gypyx wrote: Elaborate on what you're thinking?
I'm trying to think of why they'd do this.
1a)town, knows about the guidelines. waste of time.
1b)town, doesn't know about the guidelines. maybe useful.
2a)scum, knows about the guidelines. full on refuge in audacity.
2b)scum, doesn't know about the guidelines. either 2a or pretending to be 1b.-
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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Odds of Enchant lolcatting because the scum PT is filled with posts such as "we need a mislim on gypyx or thomith OR we always take them to melo"? I can see this reveal or at least bothering the two of you in private to be an avenue to build suspicion.
Which would be a terrible use of the slot. Reeks of desperation and someone that would have only read the scum PT but not the game thread.-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I mean, there's some basis behind it, i've mentioned traitorspec in the hood before, and in normals, mafia know there's a traitor but not who it isIn post 2577, Lycanfire wrote:
Whether they could actually think they're doing anything useful.In post 2567, Gypyx wrote: Elaborate on what you're thinking?
I'm trying to think of why they'd do this.
1a)town, knows about the guidelines. waste of time.
1b)town, doesn't know about the guidelines. maybe useful.
2a)scum, knows about the guidelines. full on refuge in audacity.
2b)scum, doesn't know about the guidelines. either 2a or pretending to be 1b.
but also it's very troll and enchant doing it for a prolonged period of time just means scum imoShowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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In post 2575, Gypyx wrote: Not talking to Nurse anymore
As Scum you would do this to avoid scrutiny and responsibility.
Silence will not help you I promise you that.-
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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Or was testing us to see if we were scum looking for a traitor, to catch us out if we did reveal, believing Enchant was actually a traitor.In post 2579, Gypyx wrote:
I mean, there's some basis behind it, i've mentioned traitorspec in the hood before, and in normals, mafia know there's a traitor but not who it isIn post 2577, Lycanfire wrote:
Whether they could actually think they're doing anything useful.In post 2567, Gypyx wrote: Elaborate on what you're thinking?
I'm trying to think of why they'd do this.
1a)town, knows about the guidelines. waste of time.
1b)town, doesn't know about the guidelines. maybe useful.
2a)scum, knows about the guidelines. full on refuge in audacity.
2b)scum, doesn't know about the guidelines. either 2a or pretending to be 1b.
but also it's very troll and enchant doing it for a prolonged period of time just means scum imothomith could be a court jester
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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I'm aware I'm potentially being dense, (tbh maybe this should be a discussion for post-game?) but why does massclaiming earlier = we have more information? wouldn't mass claiming after investigatives have had more nights give us more information?In post 2572, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2570, Thomith wrote:
This is me genuinely asking, as I'm still relearning the game again - last time in a game we massclaimed the day before ELo (which would potentially be today i think?).In post 2568, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2564, Gypyx wrote: we also have half the players who are already claimed now
let's do the other half
And that's still full of shit.
We should have mass-claimed yesterday. We'd have more claims and Scum would be locked into their claims.
Is this not the optimal time to mass claim? Why would it have been more beneficial yesterday than today? Are scum not also locked into their claims if we claim today?
Why were you so against it yesterday?
It would have been better to massclaim earlier because we'd have more information, and Scum would have less wiggle room to squirm away.thomith could be a court jester
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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As a mafia player i'm doing this cause you're oversteping the line and i do not wish to play with someone who thinks willingly creating a toxic game environnement is an acceptable practiceIn post 2580, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2575, Gypyx wrote: Not talking to Nurse anymore
As Scum you would do this to avoid scrutiny and responsibility.
Silence will not help you I promise you that.ShowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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In post 2583, Gypyx wrote:
As a mafia player i'm doing this cause you're oversteping the line and i do not wish to play with someone who thinks willingly creating a toxic game environnement is an acceptable practiceIn post 2580, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2575, Gypyx wrote: Not talking to Nurse anymore
As Scum you would do this to avoid scrutiny and responsibility.
Silence will not help you I promise you that.
You think me trying to get reactions out of a player is toxic instead of Scumhunting? This game is built on getting reactions out if players—it doesn't matter if YOU think it's toxic or not because you're losing your cool.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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think this is fine to commit to!In post 2575, Gypyx wrote: Not talking to Nurse anymoreYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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had some reasons to townread titus that ill review but ive always thought she was a more likely ranger busser than oblivionYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I don’t mind, let me know if this is the preference/consensus.In post 2560, Gypyx wrote: i would like Kay to claim first, think it's something everyone would be ok with?-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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sure. and make sure to think through who you'll have claim nextYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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but go now or you'll look scummyYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I’m open to suggestions.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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Can I claim now but then decide who goes next after, I haven’t done this popcorn thing before (last time Hu Tao dictated the order of claims and I was lying anyway lol)In post 2589, Psyche wrote: but go now or you'll look scummy-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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it's how popcorn works yeahShowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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I imagine that Gypyx would only choose you to go if she couldn't trust that Enchant could be serious in the hood. They will be a real drag on getting this done.
It would be nice if you didn't wait very long after any claim to choose the next person.-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I just meant I don’t know if there’s a specific person that would be best to have claim after me.In post 2592, Gypyx wrote: it's how popcorn works yeah
I’m just a VT.
So is asking Enchant to claim pointless then? I should pick someone else?-
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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You could choose enchant and demand they claim in the thread. Otherwise we could get a delay where enchant insists they did so only for the homies to say no.-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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enchant made a claim in the sense that he said "yeah that would be my fakeclaim"ShowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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Well, yeah I’d like to pick Enchant and have them claim here.-
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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The optimal person you want to choose is scum because it locks them into their claim. That way they can't go "aha! I counterclaim that exact same role"
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