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[Lycanfire]

Meant to say passes at 11:4

[Gypyx]

yeah i'm pretty sure we're just in a 12:3 setup

[Lycanfire]

large normal 245:
11:4
traitor in hood/mafia

major spr in traitor, gated jailkeeper for scums.
town has 6 prs. vigilante in this game also functioned as a vanilla cop oddly enough with complex modifier. gunsmith could get guilties on the town cop and vig.
somehow scum won this, but scum also had boon and titus.

had less time than i thought this morning

[Random Nurse]

12:3 makes no sense. You could just run 10:3.

Maybe Enchant really is Traitor?

[geraintm]

all this talk of setup seems a distraction, it doesn't change that we have to find scum or am i missing something?

[Gypyx]

this setup would be unbalanced if you took out two VTs

pedit : also yeah, fuck yeah gera keep showing us you're town

[Psyche]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

[geraintm]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

From the claims just doesn't seem viable? Town has basically nothing to respond to a United scum team. Or am I misunderstanding?

[geraintm]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

Really feels like you are wasting time

[Gypyx]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

what's "it"?

[Psyche]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

From the claims just doesn't seem viable? Town has basically nothing to respond to a United scum team. Or am I misunderstanding?

right, but this is exactly what the setup reasoning you're discounting clarifies. that the gypyx/thomith/ranger team is all the more unlikely.

[Psyche]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

Really feels like you are wasting time

and imo you're all talk
did you do anything to prosecute that vote on me you placed yesterday?
at minimum it would have been nice to have more people around when deadline was getting closer

[Psyche]

actually im misremembering your posting yesterday.
you were useless because you misread my "snippy" posts but you were also chatty about it

[Psyche]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

From the claims just doesn't seem viable? Town has basically nothing to respond to a United scum team. Or am I misunderstanding?

right, but this is exactly what the setup reasoning you're discounting clarifies. that the gypyx/thomith/ranger team is all the more unlikely.

emphasizing deductions like these is especially important this game because there is a pretty good chance that RN survives to any prospective melo

[geraintm]

1.FINAL

Votecount 1.FINAL

NotAScum (EXECUTED): Thomith, Titus, PenguinPower,

Naerys

, geraintm, Random Nurse,

davesaz

, Gypyx
davesaz (4):

Hu Tao

,

Snow2697

, Little Will o' Wisp,

NotAScum

Little Will o' Wisp (1): KayJayQueue
PenguinPower (1):

JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (1): Oblivion

With 15 players alive, it took 8 votes to secure an execution.

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

2.FINAL

Votecount 2.FINAL

Ranger (EXECUTED): Random Nurse, Titus, Oblivion, PenguinPower, Lycanfire, Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue,

Hu Tao

Gypyx (2): geraintm,

Naerys

Hu Tao (1):

Ranger

Thomith (1):

Snow2697

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an execution.

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

3.FINAL

Votecount 3.FINAL

Naerys (EXECUTED):

Snow2697

, Lycanfire, Oblivion, Psyche,

Naerys

, Random Nurse
Oblivion (2): Gypyx, KayJayQueue
Psyche (2): Titus, geraintm

Not Voting (1): Thomith

With 11 players alive, it took 6 votes to secure an execution.

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

Well, the 4 uncoloured players on the NAerys wagon are a half decent place to start.

Lycanfire - voted for ranger D1 and D2
Oblivion - not voting Day 1, then on Ranger Day 2
Psyche - on NotaScum day 1, then Ranger day 2
Random Nurse - on notascum day 1, then ranger day 2

some quick thoughts back .

VOTE: Naerys

I'll take the bait.

VOTE: Naerys

Naerys being utterly silent while other people go under a microscope only to reappear again when they come back under pressure is not a townie mentality. It still worries about Jay but Naerys is in its mind the one who tried to save Ranger.

these followed the Snow vote on Naerys and look bad

Oblivion's posting tone throughout the game is off. just negative and downbeat most of the time

Lycan was against the massclaim for a while before coming around - was this due to chat in the scrum thread?

im not doing this justice as i am half watching the rugby

[Lycanfire]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

This take is awful?

[Lycanfire]

Lycan was against the massclaim for a while before coming around - was this due to chat in the scrum thread?

Gypyx made me think of how much power town has when she said we had a flipped pr and should mass claim. At that point, I had done some thinking (my setup speculation) already, but I didn't want to give it away. I did anticipate another tpr and I assumed another scum pr to balance. Now I'm weighing what the NRG would think.

[Gypyx]

while it doesn't mean my opinions is the absolute truth, as a member of the NRG, i think i would pass the setup with everything that is claimed with a 3 person scumteam, regardless of enchant's alignement

[Thomith]

The optimal person you want to choose is scum because it locks them into their claim. That way they can't go "aha! I counterclaim that exact same role"

Well I’m not picking the players that I believe I already know their role. That gives me 5 options. Enchant(well, Titus-slot) definitely worries me most out of those.

Why does Enchant/Titus worry you the most?

[KayJayQueue]

The optimal person you want to choose is scum because it locks them into their claim. That way they can't go "aha! I counterclaim that exact same role"

Well I’m not picking the players that I believe I already know their role. That gives me 5 options. Enchant(well, Titus-slot) definitely worries me most out of those.

Why does Enchant/Titus worry you the most?

I already wasn’t too hot on that slot then when Enchant repped in, you guys said he claimed in the hood but not sure if it was joking. So without being in there and knowing exactly what was said, just getting that info secondhand, I was worried and remain unsure about that slot.

[Thomith]

The optimal person you want to choose is scum because it locks them into their claim. That way they can't go "aha! I counterclaim that exact same role"

Well I’m not picking the players that I believe I already know their role. That gives me 5 options. Enchant(well, Titus-slot) definitely worries me most out of those.

Why does Enchant/Titus worry you the most?

I already wasn’t too hot on that slot then when Enchant repped in, you guys said he claimed in the hood but not sure if it was joking. So without being in there and knowing exactly what was said, just getting that info secondhand, I was worried and remain unsure about that slot.

Enchant claimed Traitor Neighbour in the hood, and even when Gypyx asked them to claim seriously, they doubled down about it, saying they knew we were both scum, making comments about a 4 scum hood being OP ect.

I think it was probably Enchant attempting to bait us into outting ourselves if we were scum, believing they were the actual traitor, since I believe both me and Gypyx said in the hood at least once we thought there might be a traitor there.

[geraintm]

Is it just the three of you left in three Hood?

[Gypyx]

yeah

[geraintm]

If they are traitor and you are scum, awesome for them.
If they are traitor and you are town, just a joke.

If all town, no harm?

[geraintm]

back to thoughts.

Random Nurse looks good with the push on ranger day 2. like, i don't see why they would have started there and then kept it there without moving off when the slot gave the oppotunity to when Ranger really started pushing back. this just seems an easy slot to clear and i don't think i will spend much more time worrying about them until it gets much later in the game