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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:23 am

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In post 429, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 415, Spiffeh wrote: Dunnstral I was just about to passionately explain why I was townreading you after reading up on what I skimmed over but now you've lost that privilege due to your shenanigans
I don't think I did that much.

Would it be correct to say you'd prefer not to be posting in our neighborhood?
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I will utilize the neighborhood more during Night phases, but don't really care enough to check it often during the Day when we have the actual game thread.

Do you want to talk to me about why you called that one post scummy with no explanation? Is there anything I've presented in the thread you that also rubbed you the wrong way, or is your scum read on me based primarily on my neighborhood activity?
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:23 am

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In post 437, Sunflower wrote: i think marci is scum lol

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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:24 am

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In post 498, Lukewarm wrote: I... actually think that the last like 2 pages of posts from marci, I would be a bit suspicious of.

But I feel really good about the way that she opened the game with the hoods, so I am still leaning town, but maybe not "townbin for the rest of the game" confident anymore :(
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:24 am

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In post 497, Dannflor wrote:
In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying
this is especially annoying when ur scum and the meta reads are accurate imo
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:25 am

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In post 497, Dannflor wrote:
In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying
this is especially annoying when ur scum and the meta reads are accurate imo
i was referring to reads on other people as the ones that annoyed me

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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:25 am

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In post 504, Sunflower wrote: i was referring to reads on other people as the ones that annoyed me
i am aware
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:25 am

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In post 499, Save The Dragons wrote: i think there's exactly 1 mafia in our hood
the best setup would be if there's 5 mafia and 1 townie in the hood ngl
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:26 am

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In post 502, marcistar wrote:
In post 498, Lukewarm wrote: I... actually think that the last like 2 pages of posts from marci, I would be a bit suspicious of.

But I feel really good about the way that she opened the game with the hoods, so I am still leaning town, but maybe not "townbin for the rest of the game" confident anymore :(
If u sr me do it with ur whole chest not just ur bellybutton.
That is an overall town read that you are responding to bestie.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:26 am

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In post 506, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 499, Save The Dragons wrote: i think there's exactly 1 mafia in our hood
the best setup would be if there's 5 mafia and 1 townie in the hood ngl
there's only 5 people in our hood
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:26 am

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I'm telling you one of the hoods is actually just the scum pt
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:27 am

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In post 507, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 502, marcistar wrote:
In post 498, Lukewarm wrote: I... actually think that the last like 2 pages of posts from marci, I would be a bit suspicious of.

But I feel really good about the way that she opened the game with the hoods, so I am still leaning town, but maybe not "townbin for the rest of the game" confident anymore :(
If u sr me do it with ur whole chest not just ur bellybutton.
That is an overall town read that you are responding to bestie.
Im sorry i thought this would be a funny phrase to say.

I understand that, but the lil bit of doubt sprinkled in there makes it hedgy
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:27 am

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In post 500, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 429, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 415, Spiffeh wrote: Dunnstral I was just about to passionately explain why I was townreading you after reading up on what I skimmed over but now you've lost that privilege due to your shenanigans
I don't think I did that much.

Would it be correct to say you'd prefer not to be posting in our neighborhood?
Yes.

I will utilize the neighborhood more during Night phases, but don't really care enough to check it often during the Day when we have the actual game thread.

Do you want to talk to me about why you called that one post scummy with no explanation? Is there anything I've presented in the thread you that also rubbed you the wrong way, or is your scum read on me based primarily on my neighborhood activity?
I'm not sure if I feel that way anymore if I consider that you were going along with a bit regarding Firebringer being mafia, but you were over-the-top and said what if you were faking your read on them without specifying if you actually were in response to Herr Mitt's criticisms of you - and generally I felt you ignored us talking about the other neighborhood too.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:27 am

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In post 508, Save The Dragons wrote: there's only 5 people in our hood
whos in your hood again
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:27 am

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In post 509, Dannflor wrote: I'm telling you one of the hoods is actually just the scum pt
I nominate mine <3
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:28 am

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OH YEAH THE OTHER PERSON I TR IS FIREBRINGER.
I AGREE WITH OTHERS AND I LIKE THEIR "dunnstral feels fake in hood"
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:28 am

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In post 509, Dannflor wrote: I'm telling you one of the hoods is actually just the scum pt
that would be pretty wild if the mafia had to pretend their pt was just a hood
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:29 am

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In post 487, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying

:blossom:
I've been called both lackluster and tryharding so far
It's possible to be both. Even simultaneously.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:30 am

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In post 490, morph the cat wrote:
In post 482, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 411, Spiffeh wrote:
Spoiler: Morph quotes
In post 316, morph the cat wrote:
In post 264, Dannflor wrote: which probably makes sunflower town because is the type of post to make it look like you're sorting someone and get town read by the person you are pushing it isn't the type of post you make to push a scum buddy
In post 149, Spiffeh wrote: Ok the site is too laggy for me to keep refreshing the thread so I will instead devote my time to casing someone on page 6!
In post 102, Sunflower wrote:
In post 96, morph the cat wrote:
In post 94, morph the cat wrote: I have similar concerns about fireisredsir.
*WE* have concerns, simultaneously and independently!


Fire seems to have taken the "Jupiter in a scum slot fluffyness" and made it a part of himself right now. And I don't like it one little itty bitty bit.

Grrrrrrr.
i was fluffier entering kemusan which you both saw so this is an interesting take

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In post 116, Sunflower wrote:
In post 112, morph the cat wrote: What has snagged your attention so far?
actiondan is interesting to me. feel safe leaning town for now i think although scum is possible

pooky a little towny

dunn a little towny although his willingness to elaborate so much on reads already was quite surprising to me. i don't think it's scummy though, just surprising

y'all i think feel eager to dig into things which is probably a good enough sign for now that id rather let you do that, although i think the point on me is one that feels misapplied

if i were to put a bet on a scum rn i think id guess STD. that's based on almost nothing however id still take the pookybucks

firebagel feels likely to be readable given time so not worried there rn

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I don't like either of the above from Sunflower

The first deflects morph's (imo valid) point about their fluffiness by mentioning one game where they were fluffy early on as town. By mentioning this, it demonstrates that they are aware of their town meta and therefore should have no problem replicating it, so I'm not sure the purpose of even saying this other than to try to get morph off their back.

The second post feels like scum artificially inflating the word count to look like they have substantial thoughts, idk how to really articulate it but it feels insecure to me. The ActionDan read is basically "I think town but he could be scum" which is very non-committal, so what's the point of including it in the first place? The comments about morph and STD follow this same pattern, though less explicitly. It feels like they felt the need to pad their response to morph to make it look like they were thinking about the game critically and it resulted into a bunch of "reads" that don't actually tell me anything.

These, along with their not so stellar (but not quite irredeemable!) early posts makes me happy with my vote on them.

@Sunflower:
1. What makes morph and Dunn's takes about your fluffiness "interesting" and how does this inform your read on them?
2. Can you go into more detail on the ActionDan read?


Compare to recently ended scum-spiff scumcase on town early D1:
In post 1520, Eternity Larva wrote: my self-involved reason for scum reading Koishi has to do with their treatment of me ever since 2.0 replaced in and that feeling hasn’t ever been absolved.

i also never townread their predecessor.

buddying town reads can very much be a play style thing but the bulk of their ISO, as many others have pointed out, is less progressing the game forward and more positioning and endearing themselves to people, more performative than gamesolvey.

i don’t have their ISO open but I remember noticing there’s been a couple times where they’ve praised myself (and others?) for certain posts because they were able to get a lot out of it or something, which is a safe way look like you’re analyzing the game without revealing your thoughts or making a stance. to be fair, my recent questioning into this did generate a decent response about their thoughts on Yuuka and admittedly gave me town feels.

before sharing their thoughts on Yuuka yesterday i could not tell you one scum read that Koishi held. and even prior to this Yuuka was just middle of the road for them. while my poor reading comprehension could be a contributing factor, struggling to identify the scum reads of the player with the highest post count is concerning and again points more toward scum putting on a show of genuineness and effort

this is why i’m looking forward to their wall posts on some of their not-town reads

these are my thoughts off the top of my head so they are a bit scattered but result in a scum read. i will admit i felt some glimmers of towniness from my interactions with Koishi yesterday which is why i swapped back to Kagerou, but i’m done allowing minor town pings distract me from a body of work that is scummy overall.

I’m fine with either being eliminated

I don't think this was a good comparison. The Eternity Larva post is 1500 posts into Day 1 where I'm scum, feeling myself, and being widely townread by the masses. My ~case~ on Sunflower was post 149 before anything's really happened (also I'm Town here but that's beside the point!). In Touhou, someone specifically asked for reasons why Koishi was scum so I was happy to jump in and oblige to earn further town points. Here, I posted the Sunflower case with zero prompting.

I'm sure there was a more apt comparison that you could have made earlier on in Day 1 of Touhou that you didn't, and I'm left wondering why.

I interpreted your question to Dannflor as your explanation for why you were town reading me, so it feels like unearned buddying especially when the circumstances are VASTLY different.

Especially coming out of Touhou where Cabd especially was snowed by me super hard and I expect him to be incredibly wary of my every move this game.

Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood the point you were making.
Morph any response to this?
I don't think Cabd is around atm.

I'm curious why you thought I made that post. Also, did you have a response to my cryptic comment about Kemusan and WH13?
I just ISO'd you and can't figure out why I thought that was you.

I think you are referring to the fact that we mind meld fairly often and easily when we are Town together. The crypticness of your post makes me think you are not currently town reading me.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:30 am

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In post 504, Sunflower wrote:
In post 497, Dannflor wrote:
In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying
this is especially annoying when ur scum and the meta reads are accurate imo
i was referring to reads on other people as the ones that annoyed me

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This response is perhaps too self conscious based off of what Dannflor said. It wasn't pointed at you but you feel defensive about it.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:30 am

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In post 478, Spiffeh wrote: My edible is kicking in and I am really not in the mood to keep reading so I'm going to haphazardly engage with some of you in real time until I don't feel like it anymore

PEdit: @Ydra I agreed with your assessment of Luke's early posts, how do you feel about his interaction with Morph specifically?
i think that luke came out of it feeling better to me than morph, his read about it being a jedi mind trick into town on morph felt believable. i don't think that morph was wolfy during it though
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:30 am

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In post 514, marcistar wrote: OH YEAH THE OTHER PERSON I TR IS FIREBRINGER.
I AGREE WITH OTHERS AND I LIKE THEIR "dunnstral feels fake in hood"
ur not even in the hood. what if im making stuff up
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:31 am

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dannflor what happened between thinking sunflower town to voting. I missed things i think
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:31 am

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In post 516, morph the cat wrote:
In post 487, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying

:blossom:
I've been called both lackluster and tryharding so far
It's possible to be both. Even simultaneously.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:31 am

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In post 520, Firebringer wrote:
In post 514, marcistar wrote: OH YEAH THE OTHER PERSON I TR IS FIREBRINGER.
I AGREE WITH OTHERS AND I LIKE THEIR "dunnstral feels fake in hood"
ur not even in the hood. what if im making stuff up
Why would nobody call you out on it then? (:
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:31 am

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In post 485, Sunflower wrote: people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying

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