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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 12:34 am

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yea idk im trying to find a breaking strategy but failing
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:49 am

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Our breaking strategy is not eating doublekill and PICK SOMEONE TO VOTE
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:52 am

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that someone dont be me tho
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:01 am

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In post 1071, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 1067, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 911, halfasleep wrote:
In post 901, OopsieDaisy wrote: i can see a world where halfasleep is teamed with the elements/enchant slot. points out the possibility el & i could be teamed but wants me out first specifically, then after that they can use my flip to lock el as town since i was vouching for the slot and the associative read is gone.
to be clear, this is not the case. you flipping town would only mean my ping on how you two were interacting was wrong, enchant's slot doesn't have any towncred in my eyes and i wouldn't take them out of my poe that easily. the most i said was that i might want to switch them with ketchup's slot in order of flip priority if you're green.
you can say this but like, nothing you say here disproves my theory imo. like, an excuse to kick the death of your teammate down the road is worth taking, and the fact you wanted me out before em does mean something for how i'm gonna read associatives between you two. i think pulling off the progression of saying you were only gonna move them a lil bit down your readlist and then deciding a day after that wait daisy's death does rly point to el being town maybe we should look somewhere else would work and can easily be played as a natural progression. i can't just take your word you'd have stuck to that poe can i?
it also makes sense last night to position against me instead of ming since ming's lim was p much set on stone after the first couple days of discussion. you accused me of laying groundwork for tonight but that logic could v easily be applied to you too with the push on me right?
true enough. i still think it's worth trying to offer clarity about my thoughts even if i can't 'disprove' possible scum motivation behind them.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:06 am

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i do agree that black looks questionable here. then again, if i didn't notice at the time she was calling me scum for agreeing with something she'd already agreed with earlier, there's no reason to be sure she hadn't just forgotten her earlier post and not even realised she'd changed her mind.

ketchup jumping on this like it's 100% caught scum is at the very least a weird look.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:36 am

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hey Black, please clarify whether 'scum' to you means 'anti-town' or 'mafia'. thanks.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:37 am

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In post 1059, Black wrote: ok I'm gonna go play league
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:25 am

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In post 1080, ketchup777 wrote: hey Black, please clarify whether 'scum' to you means 'anti-town' or 'mafia'. thanks.
Usually just Mafia but I've used it in a broader sense before
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:26 am

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I actually kinda like ketchup's posting on the last page
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:28 am

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Well not his first two posts but these I liked and I think they are more likely to come from town!ketchup
In post 1064, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1056, Black wrote: I think we resolve the Thomith/ketchup slot
are you scared I’m going to townspew too hard?
In post 1070, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 967, ketchup777 wrote:
Spoiler: mega thoughts dump


note that ties in votes are broken randomly

half asleep first post bad
bad post- later note: experience has done this 3 times I think now, dam
note . Elements somewhat seriously perhaps claims if vig they will be vigging Moros, and Moros did indeed end up dying.
experience feels scummy again on p6
note CSF’s +. the CM shading was shading a towny so the OD (lmao OD=overdose) praising in could be protecting a buddy. CSF's avatar is so adorable that she would probably not bus her teammates and help them out as much as possible. maybe.
lmao at Cee Mirage’s parody of Ranger’s catch-up on page 7
Imaginality defends CSF
- oh is it, experience? defending CSF eh?
the 'queen' feels like Black and Titus aren’t partnered. oh wait I'm titus! ok yeah we aren't (:
interesting that OD is defending CSF but i also townread CSF's posts kinda so maybe NAI
Think about OopsieDaisy’s reaction. Is it relief? or genuine towny happiness. I think I lean towards towny happiness for now...
Page 9 etc. Black Ranger lurking so I can see why they were voted out
interesting post, Imaginality kinda scumhunting well, but Ming was just VT though
also a good Imaginality post
oh really Elements? Backing out?
Black feels different and townie (from before) (:
yep I kinda agree Black
I also somewhat agreed Black, but how wrong we were eh
from CSF=? Hmmmm. I did too but was CSF vouching for her buddy or was she just pocketing? I think I lean towards pocketing, for now
good CM post pushing Elements
baddish LG post, awesome wasn't really talking about ability level but more how the strategy could be scumsided, methinks. and how right awesome was eh?
CSF soft defending Imaginality?
twenty second gap to Black active townie?
AIRPORT PLANE SCUM SCUM OMG OD SCUM? I SWEAR ANYONE WHO GETS ON A PLANE IS SCUM OK I'LL TRY PUT IS AS NAI BUT DOING OTHER THINGS IS REALLY TEMPTING RN
probs NAI from imaginality but idk 100% what to make of it. ehhh i'll just leave it ig
Elements is just sheeping black. Elements/Imaginality might be the scum team.
Black/ha not the scum team based off of not being synced up with ha's . but asking for a fast night is very funny ahaha.
Moros wanted to vote Imaginality, Imaginality might be the sk.
experience probs not SK/vig as if they knew they would shoot Moros they probably wouldn't make this post
Cee Mirage slips to be Aureal! bum bum bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and later experience slips to be RH9 mega bum bum bummmmmmmmm
Imaginality would now rather have Ming than Moros. so maybe not SK after all. but idk
Oh really OD? You liked Imaginality’s posting? This doesn't seem to link up with what you thought in ??

interesting anti-OD point from awesome, even if he was maybe partly joking
cos thomith is smart (:
Alianna crumbing the night actions lmao
meh vote from halfasleep
+ extremely lazy from Experience. idk which alignment that is coming from atm tho.
note the (potential :) )accuracy from Moros here. maybe Imaginality is SK after all
well it’s not me!!
could be interesting to analyse, tho idk what to make of it. about whether OD had partner equity with Moros (clearly they were not partners but OD could still be scum...)
Elements is disengaged
@Cee Mirage‘s : maybe, maybe
P19 Black not noticing Aureal‘s altslip is interesting but maybe towny especially with the getting high on weed references and stuff probably coming from town smoking the pain of solving away or something like that
yes (@ AHAHA black town? in sync)
Drew‘s pro-black point noted
spooky wagoningwagony kinda vote from Experience
and twenty second delay, kinda scummy for not being instantaneous as don’t need to let Alianna get the pagetops this game. maybe experience just had bad signal or something though
bringing CSF somewhat back into the limelight feels kinda +town for OD(note that Imaginality mentioned this in and I agree (: )

potential day 1 VC
then opportunistic from OD? there was 6 hours between tho so probs nothing major
RIP CM

end of n0

weird from OD, cos like, of course you should vote there!… why feel the need to point it out beyond trying to make yourself look good?
elements diverting from CSF
OD hedging
Elements further diverting off their buddy CSF?
the fact Imaginality isn’t really considering/mentioning 1-shot vig here probably gives them SK equity
Elements spreading confusion, maybe
OD probably not the vig/SK
-: that was quick, experience! usually when you say catching up you just dip
weird inconclusive hedging from Experience not really adding much
yeah this is a good post from imaginality. then again, did sk!imaginality leap upon the opportunity to case someone who was very likely scum to gain townpoints? or indeed mafiabuddy!imaginality?
yeah me three
interesting Imaginality anti-elements point. He also agrees again that OD/CSF don’t seem to be paired
LG declares Imaginality as locktown. So why Imaginality not been nked? hmmmm
well cited by OD. might be towny engagement
weird list from elements. why not offer a read either way to the light+CSF situation? and why only have two tiers: “can vote” and "Won’t vote tomorrow"? Is there no differentiation between anyone in the first tier? Even the "tomorrow" in the second tier feels hedgey, as if they are all too willing to change their reads to their benefit.
OD had forgotten halfasleep existed. not many posts from her so fair. idk if this is AI but maybe is slightly towny to point out she forgot HA existed
etc. others are reading Black as town, too
cool idea from Imaginality, as it is of benefit to the town it might be coming from the mindset of town!Imaginality. also I just saw Imaginality's signature and am now lolling.
pointing this out is a bit strange from experience mefeels but idkkkkk
woahh so true and I’ve been doing something similarrrrr
experience saying "I think" is maybe also kind of hedgeyyyyy but this is only a minor pointtttt
experience pushing for who Ming voted feels pretty good though. I also have the innate curiosity of who voted who
and before Black vs Drew kinda maybe just feels like TvT
viva la wifom from CFS calling experience scum (:
"lead the town" feels towny from Black (: )
interesting from Drew. Did Black nk him or is she being framed?
Imaginality improving their posting n1 as alluded to by OD in 638 could have been acting scummier/nuller n0 to avoid being NKed (source: see what happened to Cee Mirage :( ) BUT WAIT DIDNT YOU THINK THEIR POSTS WERE TOWN OD? ehhhh
P30 Black annoyed at Drew scumreadimg her but idk what to make of it
OD belatedly following up on HA‘s AMA
to 3 minute gap then is interesting. was HA being shouted at in scum PT to get to the thread before being prodded? but then HA does semiaccuse OD so maybe not HA+OD team but idk
- were towny from OD tho
Imaginality's readspost seems like a good post
Ming‘s last words: go for Elements and OD

end of n1

+ feel true from Black
true dat from Imaginality, as Black pointed out later yeah it was kinda well-noticed
It‘s not me so (:
OD wondering how to hunt an sk feels genuine. + is a good thing to realise/share with us (light very likely not SK)
Imaginality might be having a bit too much fun talking about serial killers. the best way to catch a lunatic is to let them talk about themself or something like thatttt
Black remembering to come back to that post feels honest and towny
don't think about it too hard, beyond us probably not being SK because that’s too fun a role to pass up
Black certain that there are 2 mafia left is interesting
re:voting me-- don‘t do that experience ):
i'm not a good lim ehhh why everyone ganging up on my slot rnnnnn
might be towny from OD to come back a lot later (58 minutes or so later) and correct what she said, especially in a noticeable pagetop, but could also be panicky scum so idk
I agree, Black
sk!Imaginality might be gathering people‘s thoughts to help know who to NK
I like from Black here
could be a good point from Black, unless it was preplanned from Black+CAF team it feels like a pretty valid point

Black reaction to my entrance feels kinda towny, scum!her might be scared and cowering in a corner (hehehe). And in general I think there is a genuine desire to solve coming through more so than ever this time. hopefully.

HA not considering there being only 1 mafia so left is so weird. Imaginality above (in post )at least said "E.g." to leave some to the imagination but halfasleep semmed very confident there were 2 coordinating scum left.


Claimed votes:

d1:

Black Ranger: light, OD, CSF, Thomith, Imaginality (666*), Black (768), Ming (783)
Ming: HA (591), experience (604)
Black: Drew (600)

Confirmed by experience in 659
*lol devil's number maybe is a serial killer then hehe

d2:
Daisy: Black (823)
Ming: OD (824), Light (828), Imaginality (831), Experience (849), HA (867)


I think Light’s claim is true (not SvS). It’s entirely possible an unclaimed 1-shot cop with a random green check would decimate her when she claimed 1-shot cop.

Let C be the number of cops rolled
C~B(7,0.15)

P(C=0)= around 0.4
P(C=1)=7C1(0.15)(0.85)^6=0.3960
P(C=2)=0.2097
P(C=3)=0.0109

If C=1, she would be hard CCed. If C=2 she would be likely CCed, as 2C almost 20 times as likely as 3C. So it’s a very risky gambit mefeels. So why wasn’t Light killed yesterday? *insert spiderman meme about no u no u for the light kill* or they guessed she was one-shot or just generally wanted to cause paranoia

For scum setup stuff:

Let T be number of vanilla townies rolled.

T~B(7,1/2)

a priori:

P(TTTTTTT)= 0.0078
P(TTTTTT)= 0.0547
P(TTTTT)= 0.1641
P(TTTT)= 0.2734
P(TTT)= 0.2734
P(TT)= 0.1641
P(T)= 0.0547
P(-)= 0.0078

come back to this later also work out probability of sk vs vig ig
also maybe the drew NK was scum SK/vig hunting?


so if I were to guess, the scum team was HA+experience+CFS and Imaginality is the serial killer. but maybe OD or Elements(Enchant) in there somewhere too. me, black, light town, hopefully. reply to as little or as much as this as you want, peoples.
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i think I would have struggled very much to have made such a catch-up post as scum and also why would I really need to it’s my first replace in game why not just skim idk how black is scum reading this
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:29 am

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I think Daisy might have me pocketed because her agreeing with me last page made part of me want to keep her alive :lol:
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:30 am

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VOTE: halfasleep

guess I'll go back here for now
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:31 am

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In post 1063, ketchup777 wrote: anyway imma iso black and see if I can find any other inconsistency hmm
Was this performative or did you actually do this?
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:33 am

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In post 1076, Enchant wrote: Our breaking strategy is not eating doublekill and PICK SOMEONE TO VOTE
It would help if you picked someone
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:35 am

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VOTE: Black

I did
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:38 am

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Thank you
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:42 am

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VOTE: Enchant

Let's just turn this into a 1v1. If we are both town then we can throw the game together instead of you always having to do it by yourself
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:48 am

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In post 1091, Black wrote: VOTE: Enchant

Let's just turn this into a 1v1. If we are both town then we can throw the game together instead of you always having to do it by yourself
are you moving off me here because you think enchant is more likely to flip red or is this mainly tilt?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:52 am

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The latter
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:53 am

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What's your read on Enchant? Do you wanna join me?
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:57 am

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A lot of Elements posting is forgettable to me so I'm not really sure where they stand in my PoE actually as far as who is scummier than who
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 4:31 am

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plz no vote on tilt
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 4:32 am

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In post 1082, Black wrote:
In post 1080, ketchup777 wrote: hey Black, please clarify whether 'scum' to you means 'anti-town' or 'mafia'. thanks.
Usually just Mafia but I've used it in a broader sense before
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 4:32 am

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In post 1083, Black wrote: I actually kinda like ketchup's posting on the last page
hmmmm
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 4:33 am

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In post 1087, Black wrote:
In post 1063, ketchup777 wrote: anyway imma iso black and see if I can find any other inconsistency hmm
Was this performative or did you actually do this?
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