In post 1136, May wrote:
It is admittedly "hard to post analytical content" about Moros when it played normally d0 and is at the keyboard afk this phase
It'd be a better lim than tired person since it's possible for scum to be comfortable with the weird day zero game mode but get uncomfortable needing to fake scumreads
i don't like this because it is taking a general principle and trying to pigeonhole it into a place where it doesn't belong. i had scumreads on d0, so i don't think it makes any sense for May to believe that i would be uncomfortable faking them.
What should I believe about you being silent? I don't think your day 1 play in general makes you seem like someone who would scumfreeze even if you're scum but I have to round down when I'm interpreting opaque behavior that could be deliberately opaque
"this only makes sense if it's about black" is accurate, I think you're treating black like scum would treat a thread spewed townie that can't have credibility and agency because one of her favorite two flips this phase hits scum. So you're complaining that most of the day's content is a wacky Mayplosion theory you know is wrong. When really it's a fine jumping off point to other stuff, and has been, and as town I think you would only be complaining about people being literally not here
This is like one of the most analytically heavy games I've ever played so a complaint that open 914 isn't very analytical makes me think someone counts a lot of stuff floated in the game as not analytical because they're informed it's wrong
I'm bored and I want a flip too. It's good that new replacements have injected some life into the game, but I'm suffering from attrition from how long this phase has gone on. If you're expecting super analytical stuff from me you should lower your expectations lol
I'm probably not going to vote Black or May here. If I'm wrong on these two I'm carrying them to my grave. My read on tired person hasn't changed. But I'm not super impressed by Moros' recent posting to the point where I'd consider going there. I've been mulling over on implosion; I feel the emotions behind his posts but it's been inconclusive so far.
In post 1146, Moros wrote:
i think DArby is my favorite replacement catchup by far. they feel like they have the goal of solving the game and getting their own reads across, and not anything more. it's efficient and straightforward. i think it feels very town-motivated.
I don't really agree with this., though there could be some bias here because I was scumreading his pred and I disagree with his read on ceejay/worst, but I don't like how he arrived at his reads. Most of his reads are half-baked. He tries to justify them but the justification is shallow at best. His read on the worst is based off discrediting a single readlist while ignoring everything else. His read on May and Moros share the same template of "mech busy talk". His implosion townread is based off a single post from implosion talking about his meta, etc etc...
He has Moros in his scumread but chooses to vote May when there was a wagon on Moros already. This attempt to shift the focus on the lim makes me think we were on the right track actually
In post 1146, Moros wrote:
i think DArby is my favorite replacement catchup by far. they feel like they have the goal of solving the game and getting their own reads across, and not anything more. it's efficient and straightforward. i think it feels very town-motivated.
I don't really agree with this., though there could be some bias here because I was scumreading his pred and I disagree with his read on ceejay/worst, but I don't like how he arrived at his reads. Most of his reads are half-baked. He tries to justify them but the justification is shallow at best. His read on the worst is based off discrediting a single readlist while ignoring everything else. His read on May and Moros share the same template of "mech busy talk". His implosion townread is based off a single post from implosion talking about his meta, etc etc...
He has Moros in his scumread but chooses to vote May when there was a wagon on Moros already. This attempt to shift the focus on the lim makes me think we were on the right track actually
I caught up on over 1,000 posts with no flips in the span of a night after not playing this form of mafia in almost 3 years, excuse me if my justifications seem half baked.
Also odd take that I stated moros is an interesting target but I wanted to go with my strongest scum read to see where that goes. Why should I just follow what everyone else is doing when I stated my strongest reads? Wouldn’t that just be sheeping the votes and not look town indicative either? I have a feeling that regardless of voting for Moros or May it would look scummy to you.
Also also, I did say 3 times in my last post these were quick thoughts I’d get back to later. I really hope you’re not discrediting me for not having full analysis while also saying to not expect it from you in the span of 2 posts.
Implosions anger is phrased "I am angry right now fyi" which isn't very like, palpable
But if I think about it I think scum! Implosion wouldn't be an expert at saying that at the right time, at a time that makes sense for town!implosion.
In the generic I think someone can pull it off but I think maybe it's just not what he in particular would do as scum. UNVOTE: VOTE: Moros
The paranoia is that it's exactly the point but like .. for a lot of players it would be but it's not the side of the chessboard I've seen Implosion go after with a scum rand
If it counts for anything I read implo as more of a passive aggressive type so plainly stating frustration like that feels natural coming from that angle imo
and it turned out to achieve nothing except that implo is really good at scum, both off and on the coalition.
and he would definitely bus his partners if he's on the coalition with them.
In post 1154, DArby wrote:
Also also, I did say 3 times in my last post these were quick thoughts I’d get back to later. I really hope you’re not discrediting me for not having full analysis while also saying to not expect it from you in the span of 2 posts.
The difference lies in not justifying your reads at all vs justifying your reads with shaky reasoning. You can get a sense of what I mean by if you compared tired person's ISO with yours.
Not that I think pursuing a vanity wagon is inherently scummy, but in this specific instance it reads agenda-pushy because it aims to deflect pressure off implosion/Moros, especially when the reasoning given is not strong enough to warrant it yet.
I want to say this pushback is pretty towny though! Certainly warrants a re-evaluation on your slot
